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PAX
09-03-2002, 09:51 PM
As promised, here is my first contribution to the freshwater board.

On Labor Day, an international crew tried for the first time ever, its skills with Swift river trouts. It was, Bjorn from Island, an avid Salmon fly-fisherman who thinks trouts are baitfish ;) , Steven from Scotland, who does not mind spending seven hours in a 52 degree water with leaking waders and under heavy rains, it reminds him of Scotland and myself, Patrick, from France. Steven and I are Squannacook river fan. In May, we caught a ton of brown on dry flies there. Then I switched to saltwater fly-fishing chasing stripers. It was our first real freshwater outing since early June.

We arrived at the Swift around 7:30am. Walking our way to the Y pool we right away spotted trouts in the current. Water was crystal clear. Excitation was gaining us. We started to walk faster to the pool. When we arrived it was exactly as I expected it: beautiful. We immediately spotted trouts rising in the overflow branch of the Y. Steven decided to give a shot at the overflow. I tried the pool and Bjorn tried the main stream branch. From where I was, I could see the fish and some of them would rise to tiny “bugs”, probably size 18 or 20. First deception, despite all the reading and preparation we did, the tiniest fly we had was a #16. I tried a couple different patterns but nothing. Also tried foam beetle and nymphs. Nothing. Steven and Bjorn were experiencing the same. I gave up my spot and went to the East side of the overflow by crossing the overflow way upstream. I probably spent an hour there and it was the most beautiful but frustrating trout show I ever witnessed. Brook, rainbow and brown trouts of all size were cruising the area sipping a bug here and there. I tried again several patterns. Had trouts following my offering and turning back at the last second. Everything we read was true. These fish are so well educated that they know the difference between a real fly and yours. We kept grumbling as a size 18 or 20 would have probably helped. The top of the frustration was when a guy came, took my first spot, did two casts and hooked a fish. Per Steven he had an indicator and was probably fishing a wet fly of some sort. Unfortunately the fish broke off. We decided to regroup to the car and assess the situation. While I was crossing the route 9 bridge I looked downstream and saw a guy landing a fat rainbow. We briefly chatted and he said he had been catching a few on a black woolly bugger. So we had been trying to go for tiny flies when all they wanted was big buggers. :confused: We tied black WB and worked our way downstream. At the pool with the captive ducks, I hooked a tiny brookie: My first Swift river trout ever. My bugger was maybe a third the size of the fish. I carefully released the fish ordering her to get bigger and come back for a future fight. Steven stayed in the bridge area with Bjorn downstream from him. I went back to the road, headed downstream and cut through the trees and brushes to reached the river. Walking downstream I reached a pool that has kind of an overflow on the left side when looking downstream. There is a big log in the middle. I did a cast making sure my fly would swim close to the log. Sure enough I saw a silver lightning jumping on my black WB. The trout gave her best fight. It was a 15.5 inches fat rainbow. In the meantime Bjorn and Steven had both lost a fish. We regrouped again at the bridge. We briefly spoke to a fellow fly-fisherman who advised us to give Cady Lane a shot. The parking area at the bridge was packed at this time and a lot of fly-fishermen where heading upstream from the bridge. We headed to Cady Lane. I spotted a few fish upstream from the hatchery. First cast, one strike, one miss. Second cast, second strike, second miss in a row. Then nothing. We walked to Cady Lane, spotting mostly small fish sipping bugs but never had a taker anymore. It was now 3:00pm and time to head back to Boston. We had a blast for our first time on the Swift. We were lucky, as the rain never really came. This is a beautiful river with beautiful fish. :) I was a very humbling experience but we will be back a little more knowledgeable and better prepared.

There was a lot of people there mid afternoon, anyone of you guys?

Patrick

Sentience
09-04-2002, 10:22 AM
Great post PAX. I am glad you liked the Swift. It actually took me a few times to get used to the river. It is not your classic trout water.

The neat thing about the Swift is that it always teaches me how to fish better. I had always thought that 6x was my limit along with size 20 flies. Now I carry 7x and 8x in my vest and I finally broke down and bought size 26 hooks to tie tiny spinners and gnats. It is difficult to see these tiny things and sometime you just have to guess. I also found myself relearning how to strike the fish once it takes with such light tippet. Additionally, I have met some really skilled anglers there. It is frustrating to see some regular come up and immediately start hammering fish when you are struggling but the more you fish aroung these guys the better you, yourself, get at it. As I said earlier fishing the Swift has made me a better fisherman. But then there are the times when you are the lone guy hammering the trout and there are few better feelings.

Lastly, if you thought there were a lot of trout in the river this week you would be awed at the numbers earlier in the season (or later for that matter too.) Unfortunately, people sneak onto the Swift and take fish when it is clearly illegal and some might say immoral. There are still big fish there, but a month ago there were a lot of big fish there. I was routinely landing 18 inch trout.

I wasn't there on Monday, but I think I might go today now that I have gotten excited by your post.

Sentience

docofthebay
09-05-2002, 06:32 PM
The Y pool may be the hardest still water to fish....Yes it humbles all but the best. Up stream from the pool, I have had good luck with midge nymph immitations tied 22 @ 24 hooks.. red or blue crystal flash as body and peacock herl for the thorac and that is it. add a little weight and watch your drift.. the pick up will be light. Has worked well in the fall.

OTHER TIMES you can be surprised..liked when I hooked a nice big rainbow on a #12 orange palmer!

good luck

Jed
09-06-2002, 08:45 AM
I fished the swift regularly befor 9/11 and spurratically after it has reopened. I would go to the Y Pool and meet the same people almost every day. They knew the pool and what worked and could catch. Others like me could only watch in wonder. I too have been humbled. All fish at the Y pool have post doctorate degrees in fly fishing. The some of the larger fish used to teach at Orvis school for fish. They are a cautious and educated bunch of fish. For drys, they almost always require a #20 or smaller fly and for wets, I have seen people have success with san juan worms. All in all, fishing there is just a pleasant experience regardless of catching (or not). About 50 yds. above the Rt9 bridge there is a place where 2-3 20"+ fish hang out. I have tried unsuccessfully for the last three times there to hook up. I keep on telling myself to move on, but the feet do not respond.

Enjoy the Swift, it is a great place.

jed

MKDeceiver
09-23-2002, 04:07 PM
From my experience at the Swift river I have concluded one thing, the fish are OVEREDUCATED. Any fish of any size in there has been landed and fooled many of times. From that, the fish have acquired knowledge, on top of that they have seen many patterns fished terribly by many anglers. Through that, they have also acquired knowledge.

What has always worked for me over there, is tying a big ridiculous looking bright pattern. Something the fish have never seen before. I can remember one time, I took bright chartreuse chenille, wrapped it along the shank with a little lead. Something to imitate an inch room, the thing was only about 5 times bigger. Worked great.

To me. The Swift River is a beautifull museum. But the place lacks the awe and exclusiveness essential to a fishing spot. If I land a 20 inch fish, I want to know that it is mine, that perhaps this fish has never been caught before. That I was the one who fooled this fish. I want to know the fish has been cruising, never encountered man for years, that is until I came along.


Perhaps they should remove the catch and release!

Sentience
09-27-2002, 02:15 PM
I definitely know what you are talking about. I was quite disappointed the first time I fished there. I have gotten over it a bit though. I do like fishing the Swift but it feels a bit like an aquarium or casting pool, not like a wild unpredictable cover-laden river. Obviously the best thing the Swift has going for it is that it is a tailwater so the water temperature remains steady. I usually go other places when the water temps is suitable.