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Tuna
10-06-2002, 11:23 AM
Fished Weds, Thurs, Fri, Sat in sun, clouds, drizzle, calm, killer east and west winds with good to at times spectacular fishing. Also got to put Dave Corbett on some albies in exchange for putting me on bass around Cape Cod in the spring. I'm in a bit of an albie daze at the moment.

Wednesday was the spectacular day for me. It also marked my first season with more than 2 20 days.

Winds were SW 15-20, just enough to kick the fishing into high gear but not enough to turn me into a total basket case. The albies were actually very picky, but I found so many of them that I landed fish until my right hand said "NO" and had to quit early (4:30) leaving albies still going strong in the rips at the point. Shag had a good number of albies in the morning, then East of Shag, then the Point. Saw a very big pod of bass against the shore under the radar which gave me instant albie hookups outside of it. The school would dissipate, reform along the beach, and eventually worked past the Point towards Osyter Pond. Later, I had great albie shots far outside in the Point rips. I thought I'd remember every second of it, but 3 more days of fishing faded a few memories.

Thursday was the one calm morning, with an eerie combination of clouds to the north and clear sky to the south, making for some incredible contrasts of light. I found fewer fish this day, but the fish I found were more cooperative than Weds. Had quick action at Shag, then the Point, then Shag, then in the early afternoon the albies went wild in outer Shag after a shift to NE wind (and a bump up to 15-20 knots), but then things went quiet. I had not dressed warmly, and the NE winds turned things cold, so after an hour of seeing nothing, called it quits early around 3 and went home to wait for best friend Bob McMahon and Dave to show up for Friday and Saturday.

Friday was a bit scary, with NE winds around 25 knots and wind against tide at outer Shag. The albies and blues showed, but it was hard to find them outside of the biggest rips, and the biggest rips were a bit much. Dave, hard core albie lover, complained about how long it took me to find fish after hooking and landing an albie on his first cast. Bob didn't complain, but got seasick whenever I went into the rips. We did get a few outside of the rips, but eventually headed for Gardiners in the hope of some calmer albie shots. Saw David Blinken there, but the only fish there were in the rips too. Took a few there (no David, I didn't try to hook that albie trolling, I just had the fly over the side of the boat when I moved) then searched for calmer waters but found nothing at Cherry Harbor, Accabanac, Goff Point, Fort Pod Bay. Bob knew I would head for the rips again, so he opted to sit the rest of the afternoon out and after dropping him off I promptly scared even hard core Dave by looking in the rips at the Point, which were a bit wild even though the wind had dropped some when the wind shifted to SE. We went back to Shag for a great end of day albie run, fishing until the lack of light turned the feed off.

Saturday was less scary but just as windy in the morning. Bob opted out for the morning, and Dave and I had our doubts getting onto the boat, but Shag was very fishable, as the winds were from the south west. I got video of Dave complaining about how long it takes me to put him into fish again (again with him hooking an albie on his first cast), but karma prevailed and his edgey New England humor was rewarded with a break off (and another ta boot). Unlike Thursday, these feeds were pure albie and pure joy. We chased them in inner and outer Shag, and as we got more light, we had some great sights. I remember Dave saying there was an albie circling back through some bait that he got to see hit close to the boat, and feeds where you could see the albies well before they surfaced. When it slowed a bit, I took him to the Point, as in 2 visits to Montauk he had yet to get an albie at the Point or see a fabled Point bass feed.

He got both, but the rips were just too much again, so after Dave landing an albie in the rips after wtaching them sail through big waves (and me breaking my second fly rod in 2 days) we got out of the rips to watch a nice bass feed not too near to shore. Although I feel strongly that we should not ruin the shore fishermen's chances, a guide and I got yelled at constantly even though we came no where near their zone. Before we left, though, a few more guides joined in and did crowd the shore - maybe the shore fishermen were practicing for what was to come. Whatever.

Went back to Shag for a few shots at BIG albie pods before Bob called on the cell to say it was time to get him (the winds had dropped a bit, and he was bored "sitting it out"). When we got back on the water, the Shag feed had slowed to a crawl, so we took off for Gardiners again, finding the albies and blues in the rips again. Bob took a quick albie, I got one, Dave got one, but the blues were everywhere, so as the bite died, we decided to head back East for the sure thing late Shag feed.

Of course, there is no such thing as a sure thing when fishing, and the late day feed did not show, so we quit around 5:30, beat up but buzzed from two great days. Not that great in terms of number landed (we only got a bit over 30 albies landed in 2 days, and only Dave got over 10 on any day, although we hooked and lost a lot too), but great in terms off what we saw and the chances we had. We also had as many blues as anyone could desire.

Bob and I have fished together for more than 40 years, and its always a joy to watch his natural ability to get onto fish. Dave, who I have now fished with 5 days, is hardcore and a joy to fish with - one of the few partners who will stick it out with me for 10 hours in less than comfortable conditions (his day out here last year started with NW 25 knots). I got some good video of the two days which hopefully will hold Dave over until he comes out next fall (after, of course, my exchange trip to the Cape in the spring - right Dave?).

I got to meet some folks who post, like Steve and Frank and maybe a few others who I forget in my current albie daze.

I am hoping to get my brother Jim out this coming Friday, my last planned 4 day fishing weekend (Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun). Waters are still warm, but I am running out of remaining vacation days, so after this coming weekend I have only 2 more week days I can steal out there. Short of a big freeze or storm, I wouldn't be surprised to see the albies last strong through the month.

fmw
10-07-2002, 08:14 AM
I met Tuna while on the water this weekend during an annual two day trip I take with college friends where we rent a 21 ft. Mako from Uhlein's Marina. It is a happy coincidence that two of my closest friends from college are flyfishers -- one who mainly steelhead fishes in upstate NY and another who is down in North Carolina.

We fished Friday and Saturday and the fishing was windy and wild. We were out at Shagwong braving the NE-E winds on Friday. The Friday morning session was very interesting with wind against tide on the Shagwong rips. When I met Tuna on the water later that afternoon and he talked about the "killer rips" it made realize just how rough it was. After all, I have been reading his posts for several years about braving nasty conditions. I said to myself, if he thinks it was that bad, I guess it was.

On both Friday and Saturday we caught a lot of ablies, mostly at Shagwong. My report differs from Tuna in a few respects. We did not have that tough a time finding the albies in those tough conditions after discovering that they tended to be hanging out in long bands. We made repeated similar drifts in the general vicinity of the Shagwong bouy and that seemed to keep us in the fish. Also, we did not find many blues in the fray on Friday, but began to find them more frequently during the day on Saturday.

We boated many albies as the fishing was great pretty much all day Friday and until early afternoon Saturday, kind of dying out as the day became nicer.

Like Tuna mentioned, at some point on Saturday, when the sun first came out, the water was particularly clear and there was great "albie visuals" of fish swiping at the fly, chasing bay anchovies out of the water, etc.

On Saturday at about 2 or 3 p.m., we headed down to the Point for the first time of the trip. Things looked fishy as there were some albie schools around as well and some bluefish blitzes. Then all of a sudden, just north of the light -- bass blitz! What a scrum of boats headed right towards the bass that were working tight to the north side shoreline. Trying to operate the boat in the frenzy freaked me out more than dealing with the "killer rips" the day prior. On one hand, I said to myself "Now I see what the controversy is about" as the boats crowded the bass. On the other hand, the fish were so tight to the shore, that the surfcasters really had much better access to the fish. If this is how the fish have been working, I believe the surfcasters ultimately have nothing to complain about as the fish are right at their feet and it is the boaters struggling for a shot. Ultimately, we got one bass from the fray after the initial feed when the school popped up again in Clark's Cove and we were the only boat in the vicinity and there were no surfcasters present. We got a 25" fish and then backed out as the surf buggies descended on the blitz.

I was looking forward to the Point area breaking open into a full-fledged-classic-Point-frenzy, however, it never really happened. After the pod or two of bass passed, things kind of petered out. By 5:00 p.m., things were also pretty dead at Shagwong with no late afternoon bite. Thus, we called it a day.

Tuna
10-07-2002, 08:44 AM
Frank - I thought I had seen the boat you rented earlier on Thursday in an area I did not get to. Glad you found more albies than blues - the blues were killing my two friends, as we could see many albies but their spinning lures were attracting the blues. I wasn't fishing as much then - just manning the boat and casting short when I saw albies near, and my few casts were generally getting albies.

When there are blues mixed in, there generally are areas where there are only albies, we just didn't get into those lines Thursday.

Still, we had a blast. Great to hear you got your firends on albies and to see you out there on the water.

fmw
10-07-2002, 10:08 AM
I found it funny that on Saturday you saw the reverse of what we had on Friday -- on Saturday you had all albies, while we were cut off by blues on numerous occassions.

I certainly can see how on Friday morning you were just manning the helm as it was really nasty. The first time we had a doubleheader on (on Friday morning there was just two of us) resulted in a classic albie cluster-f### as we ended up drifting a little too close to the Shagwong buoy. My albie became wrapped around the buoy line and it was interesting trying to undo that and save my flyline while at the same time my buddy still had his albie on. Fortunately, the fish eventually broke off at the tippet. However, I now have a special memory of that buoy that I will forever recall each time I pass it on the way to the Point.

If you saw that boat out on Thursday, it was a different crew as we were only out there Friday and Saturday.

Tuna
10-07-2002, 12:18 PM
Nah, it was you (I think), just had the day wrong, as the albies melted my brain. It was my first day out with Dave and Bob... hmm, that was Friday, yup. Looks like I can still handle 4 days of albies, just not remember the days well.

Friday morning I saw what looked like the boat you rented near that bouy, and when we talked later I thought it was the same boat (same color). I was thinking of trying that area, but Bob was heaving everytime I moved in that direction, so I was targeting smaller pods further west.

I had one "hang up" experience too, although I am unsure what happened. It was Saturday morning, and I hooked an albie that seemed to be running too far. I couldn't feel a tail flap, and the line seemed to be going out exactly at the rate my boat was drifting along the shore. I was about to run out of backing when I figured the fish had snagged something.

Dave powered me back, and I was able to gain line. Got to fly line but still couldn't move the fish without moving the boat. Dave got me up wind/up tide of the fish, and then I started to be able to retrieve. Landed an albie I had foul hooked near the tail.

Still not sure if it was snagged or not, but that's my guess as to what happened. I considered it a lucky albie (although I got a few others where I just barely cleared a line before a run).

PhilDKreal
10-07-2002, 04:47 PM
Can't wait to get back out there myself.

Steve:D