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StriperSniper
08-06-2003, 05:45 PM
All:
I was just tying up some Peanuts and was wondering what everyone's favorite pattern would be for our little friends.

I've included mine...tied with Elk hair on a 3/0 Mustad, it's approximately 4 inches long

Tight Lines,
StriperSniper

edited - resized photo - mcahill

captshiner
08-07-2003, 11:01 AM
These are my 3 go to p nut patterns. All polar fibre..doesn't last long. All angel hair...looks wild in the water. 3/0 crease... Gotta love the topwater!

edited - resized photo - mcahill

Fly Aweigh
08-07-2003, 04:09 PM
HERE IS A PATTERN I HAVE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH OVER THE YEARS, I CALL IT (HOOKUP HERRING)

CAPT STAN
http://evilendeavors.com/hookupherring III.jpg

Quicksilver
08-07-2003, 04:32 PM
Sweet looking flies!!!

flyslinger
08-07-2003, 05:42 PM
capt. stan,


what hook is that? that fly seems to have the exact shap of a p-nut, especially the belly. my p-nut looks nothing like either of those but seems to be effective.




dan

Fly Aweigh
08-07-2003, 05:55 PM
SLINGER

THE HOOK IS A MUSTAD C68S SS TARPON 2X HEAVY/2X SHORT.

CAPT STAN

mizt
08-07-2003, 07:51 PM
Capt Stan looks good, tie a yellow tail in on that I think I may have a good menhaden. What material could i get a recipe?

Fly Aweigh
08-07-2003, 09:48 PM
MITZ
I USE UNIQUE HAIR FOR THE WING AND TAIL AND TOP THE WING WITH PEACOCK HERL OR DARK ANGEL HAIR. I USE SPARKLE BRAID FOR THE BODY OR BILL'S BODY BRAID WILL WORK ALSO. MAKE SURE YOU WRAP THE BODY BRAID PART WAY AROUND THE BEND OF THE HOOK, THUS MAKING THE TAIL POINT UP AND KEEPING THE DRAG CREATED BY THE TAIL AND WING ABOVE THE CENTER OF BALANCE OF THE HOOK, THIS WILL KEEP THE FLY SWIMMING WITH THE HOOK POINT UP. I MIX AND MATCH THE COLORS TO IMITATE DIFFERENT BAITFISH.

CAPT STAN

tsheehy
08-08-2003, 03:18 PM
Here is my quick and dirty Angel Hair PB fly..

It's the one with the hook and the 'oh crap, these are bluefish, hurry up and tie on some wire' haywire twist ;)


http://tomsheehy.home.comcast.net/images/091102_01.jpg

I almost forgot to comment on Capt. Stan's pattern, it is very good! I'm going to try and tie some of these up on a Tiemco bend-back hook this weekend.

-- Tom

Quicksilver
08-08-2003, 03:23 PM
I think the Captain's entry should be in the next book of saltwater fly patterns.

Mark Cahill
08-08-2003, 03:43 PM
the captain should go to Pattern Post (http://www.reel-time.com/pattern/rt_cms) and upload a few photos and some instructions (log in with your forum username and password).

silkfish
08-08-2003, 11:10 PM
I'll second that.

Quicksilver
08-09-2003, 03:36 PM
Captain, looks like a dome eye, but is there some other material under the eye? Almost looks like the stuff Page Rodgers uses for her Big Eye Baitfish.

flyslinger
08-09-2003, 07:18 PM
dan

Quicksilver
08-09-2003, 08:47 PM
Shame sir. A woman of incredible inner beauty and spirituality, and an amazing tyer.

rwolson
08-10-2003, 12:37 PM
Page's fly tying classes are worth the money. She puts a lot of thought into her patterns.

Fly Aweigh
08-10-2003, 06:59 PM
quick

you are absolutely right, that is adhesive mylar foil under the eye, cut to shape, similar to page's big eye baitfish. If you observe photos of baitfish, as in Tsheehy's, you will notice that one of their most predominant features is their gill plate.

capt stan

Quicksilver
08-10-2003, 07:22 PM
Great looking fly!

LarryM
08-12-2003, 03:06 PM
The eye on the captains fly is mounted on a die cut gill plate like the ones that Page Rogers uses on some of her patterns. You can get them from Hunters Angling Supplies .

Fly Aweigh
08-13-2003, 06:03 AM
larry

the material for the gill plates can be purchased at The Rod Builders Workshop in Kingston

Capt Stan

tsheehy
08-14-2003, 12:04 PM
FYI..

I tied up a couple of Capt. Stan's patterns and finally got a chance to try them out this morning.

My version was slightly different, in that I used a Tiemco 411 bend-back hook and angel hair over kinky fiber for the body.

With the bend-back hook, I found that the body materials acted like a bite-guard, as it allowed the hook point to be completely hidden within the fly. I lost two decent fish this morning that I thought were hooked solidly, and I had a number of hit and runs.

In Stan's version you can see how his hook point is exposed over the top of the materials, so keep this in mind as you create your own. I may try again with a conventional hook.

-- Tom

Fly Aweigh
08-14-2003, 04:17 PM
Tom
by their very nature bndback hooks result in a poorer hookup rate than straight hooks because they bring the point closer to the plane of the shank, thus decreasing the efective hook gap and when you add material on top you decrease the hookup rate even more as we all find out the hard way. with this pattern
there is no need to use a bendback, you will find that most fish are hooked in the top of the mouth similar to a clouser type fly.

Stan

CharlieP
08-23-2003, 04:18 PM
fantastic flies, cap'n. you just inspired me to pull out the fly tying stuff. kitchen table here i come.

charlie

jo53mo
10-03-2003, 07:15 PM
Captain, when you tie in the unique hair are you tie it on top of each other or ahead of each other?

Thanks Joe

Fly Aweigh
10-04-2003, 04:15 PM
JOE

WHEN I TIE IN THE UNIQUE HAIR I FOLD IT IN HALF AND TIE IT AHEAD OF THE PREVIOUS LAYER, THAT WAY IT WILL ANGLE UPWARD AND GIVE YOU A DEEPER BODY

CAPT STAN MACKERWICZ

jo53mo
10-04-2003, 04:34 PM
thanks for your reply Captain, one more question, are you putting any bend in the hook?

Joe

Fly Aweigh
10-04-2003, 05:19 PM
JOE

WITH THIS FLY I DON'T USE ANY BEND IN THE HOOK

STAN

kingfisher
10-12-2003, 04:38 PM
I tried to immitate Capt Stan's peanut bunker. I started glueing eyes directly to the body hair. After landing two schoolies, one eye was lost. Fishes seem to not bother with lost eyes. They kept biting and the rest of the eye was lost after five schoolies. I guess now I understand why Capt Stans eyes are mounted on some durable material. I coudn't find the mylar material. I used a piece of plastic poker card instead. I wet the flies to see how would they appear in the water. I should say that this pattern has been quite deadly for last couple of weeks.

jo53mo
10-12-2003, 04:49 PM
what hook are you using on yours? Also looks like your using alot more material than than the Captains. I do like the body shape of yours.
Joe

AlderBrookFarm
10-12-2003, 06:36 PM
I've been tying these too and found that I wasn't going up the bend in the hook far enough at first. I got the die cut gill plates from Hunters Angling Supply. I was supposed to get to try them in the salt tomorrow but the weather isn't cooperating. When I took one down to our pond to see how it swam I discovered that they are deadly on small mouth bass though.

kingfisher
10-12-2003, 06:55 PM
Hook is Mustad 2/0. The tail and lower bally is super hair to make them bristle (for the required drag for the hook-up swiming). upper parts are buck tail and peacock herl.

Thinking of today's fishing with this pattern, I may have problem with too much materials in the body. I missed couple of bites possibly due to too much cover of the hook point.

Fly Aweigh
10-13-2003, 08:37 PM
guys
from reading your posts i can see that you are getting the pattern down.
it is important however, to not have too much material covering the hook point or you will miss some strikes.

stan

Henry Drinker
05-16-2008, 07:17 AM
Where did you find those gill plates????

HD

Fly Aweigh
05-17-2008, 07:07 PM
Henry,
I get these gill plates at the Rod Builders Workshop in Kingston Ma., they stick on and come precut in different shapes and sizes, some are rounded and some are pointed, and sometime I round off one pointed end so it looks like a teardrop and makes an excellent gill plate.