Casting Intermediate Lines?

[THE GAME]

I am getting practiced up for the surf. I have my new 10wt with 10wt airflo WF10 I line.I don't no if it is inherent of these lines but I can't seem to tighten up the loops.Unless i pile drive it with a whip at the end of the cast like I am trying to throw it threw a wall.With the big loops the fly makes a big circle at the end of the cast.Instead of traveling on the same plain as the line.
Anybody got any suggestions ?

[Animal Chris]

I had the same problemand I confronted Lefty Kreh with the question. His response was with sinking lines, you don't want to throw tight loops. Because of the dynamics of sinking lines, a tight loop actually works against you. If you open your loop up a little I think you will get a better delivery.

[Sagebrush]

Hello,

Just got back from MA. Native texan though. I used the 10 wt Airflo quite a bit. You are running up against a few challenges. First the diameter of the line is large so it catches the wind and creates more friction through the guides. Also the line is somewhat limp so it will sag a bit between the guides and it does not transfer energy as well as a stiffer line. Although the limper line is easier to manage. Finally your probably running up against onshore winds.

My advice is keep the line well lubricated and work on your timing. A tighter loop is going to give you more distance. Deeper water makes it difficult to cast well as will larger flies. You might consider a tapered leader to help your fly unroll better.

If the taper of the line is large you may be false casting more line than needed. Lines that taper to a skinny running line should be cast closer to the head and shot.

While the 10wt Airflo is a great line for a lot of situations, you might also consider getting a mild sinking line. Airflo makes some good ones 250 to 300 grain will work better with larger flies and wind. You can use more bouyant flies and leader length to control depth. Also a floating or intermediate "running line" might be better for the surf. Sci angler has a pink and black 275 with a floating running line. It works well in the surf. Look for the smallest diameter tip and running line, also whether it is a cold or warm weather line.

Cold weather lines are going to act more like spaghetti than a garden hose in the texas heat.

Some would scoff at this combination, however as long as it doesn't feel like your dragging an anchor across the bottom (large diameter, heavy sink), You'll have a wind beater that casts quickly and efficiently.

Of course in skinny water over moss this type of line won't work well.

Regards,

Sagebrush.

[titleguy]

I have a couple of older orvis monic lines for colder water ( the blue ones) which are braided mono core intermediates and they shoot like crazy as long as you haul and don't take more than two or three false casts at most. They have a relatively slow sink rat 2"/ sec I think, but I have had great success with them for distance. They need a good stretching at the beginning of the day and use a basket. As for sinking lines, RIO Deep Sea is it IMHO I have a 250, 350, 450 for 8,9,10 respectively and all cast great. :-%

[wittich]

I find the clear intermediate lines difficult to cast. I changed to the Scientific anglers quad tip. the small diameter running line cuts through the air and teh 30 foot clear tip still produces lots of hits.