kayak fishing

[albacore00]

Last fall I had a fairly unpleasant experience with kayakers. I was fishing a fairly small area with my boat where false albacore had finally showed up,
it was a weird season for those fish. Anyway, there must have been a dozen kayakers crowding the water and fish making it difficult to pursue the albies in that area, forcing me to leave my home water to chase the fish elsewhere out of disgust. It seems to me that kayakers are chasing fish they can't possibly get near because of the vessel's lack of speed ,screwing up fishing for convention boats. There is something to be said for a kayak's stealth. i feel kayakers are sometimes fishing for fish that are better pursued from shore!

[SamRiley]

Oh boy..... this should be a fun thread :D

First off, I'm sorry that you got closed out of those Albies. Nobody likes to have their spot over crowded, especially when it's their home water.

I do believe though that kayakers have every right to pursue any fish that they so desire and can and should do so. All boaters (kayakers included) need to be mindful of the rules on the road and show some common courtesy. Unfortunately, Tunoids tend to bring out the worst in people both on land and on the water. Kayaks are perfectly capable of catching Tuna. I've been witness to Albies, Bonito, Spanish Macs and even Skipjack caught from kayaks. Those nuts on the west coast go after monster Thresher Sharks and Halibut too.

Sorry, but I don't think your issue is due to a problem with kayaks but instead has more to due with fishing pressure and maybe manners.

Tight lines,
Sam

[FLYRODER]

albacore00 I don't see what the problem might be. Are these kayakers drifting into your drift? If so you should tell these kayakers what they are doing wrong and I'm sure they will listen and would give you your space/distance. If you were there first. Were these kayakers there before you? If they were they have more of a right to be there and you should give them there space/distance. Whenever I'm on my kayak I make sure if the boater is there first I give them there space and I would hope the boater does the same in return. It's a hugh ocean you have a boat and you can cover much more areas than kayakers can. You can find areas kayakers are unable to reach. So what's so bad about looking for a new spot to fish if kayakers are first to the area you fish? As stated above kayakers have been catching 200+lb Thresher Sharks on the west coast and 70+lb Rooster Fish in Baja. So don't think that just because we are in/on a kayak we can't catch the same fish you do.

[Bob Parsons]

You would be less happy if it were a couple 26' regulators running gunning into the fish.(#$116)

[ruge13]

Are you serious? :rolleyes:

Kayakers got in your way? Thats the excuse you are going to use because you didn't get a shot at those fish? It had nothing to do with an engine running them down?

Is a fish Fast because it swims fast? Or because you think you need to run up to them and fire off a cast fast befroe you drift over them and put them down?

Sorry I overreacted, so I offer an appology. To everyone whos Tunoids I have paddled my arse off to get near and caught, I appologize. I should not have been able to keep up. I will hold my big brother boater's hand next time I cross the street and not run so fast to catch his fish. No speed...ppppptthhh

And I don't set picks on boats by paddling in front and slow, but have had them do it to me even though I was there first, sometimes 1/2 hour earlier. I like the competition.

[Wes]

Sorry, I'm not sure I see what your point is. It's not real clear to me that they were causing problems but rather just there so they were in your way. If you want kayakers to stay away because they don't stand a chance of catching tunoids get over it. You got a boat, there's a lot of water available to you, use it. If you feel these fish are better pursued from shore then you are free to do so. Personally, I give the shore guys plenty of room, they have little enough water as it is. I often fish side by side with boaters and nobody has a problem, never an issue of etiquette, but I'm sure it happens. I get a little po'd at the boaters who roar through the water I'm fishing but I don't think they realize where the fish are sometimes. Sorry if I am misreading your post.

[SamRiley]

I just looked up your prior posts and found out that you are a charter captain. Is the problem that the kayakers got in the way of your paycheck? I'm not trying to be flip.... just trying to understand the issue. Some more detail on area and what all of the parties were doing would be helpful if we are to turn this into a constructive and educational thread.

[Wes]

Maybe the run and gun clients are the biggest tippers. ;)

[BluesCruiser]

Well this died out quickly --124-3

[mansfieldsign]

I have had the opposite experience with meeting the kayak guys OTW. There have been plenty of times, a kayak(s) has come along side and shared some spots or had us follow them over to a area that was hot. -- saved the trip a few times. :)

[Punchshot]

It's funny, whenever I read someone ****ing and moaning about someone or something, it's usually from someone who has just signed on to this forum. For all you complainers please take your gripes else where, and keep your boat out of my way --127-3-

[Ray]

I must say, though I have only been kayak fishing seriously for 1 year, I have never had any trouble with other boaters. I have experienced just about every fishing opportunity in this short time and have had plenty of experiences fishing around AND WITH "convention boats" as the first poster calls them.

Like any situation, everyone needs to use common sense and practice safe boating.

I agree with most everything said by the previous posters.

Kind of sounds like Ruge13 got up on the wrong side of the bed though --125-3

[joev]

--124-3 --124-3 --124-3 --124-3
Hopefully some of them guys caught some fish from their home waters --127-3-

[mdrew9]

WOW I don't kayak, although I am considering it. But maybe you should drop your unsuccessful run and gun approach and allow the fish to come to you. --126-3-
Mike

[Ray]

WOW I don't kayak, although I am considering it. But maybe you should drop your unsuccessful run and gun approach and allow the fish to come to you. --126-3-
Mike

Mike,

That strategy works very well. I use it for blues in Cotuit in the spring.

[mgustav]

I was working a rip about 100 feet off shore in a bay one summer day from my anchored kayak. I was fortunate and pulling up many fish. Along comes this 23' boat with Capt. and client who must have been watching me. They pull up nearly arms length from me. The client says to me "What fly are you using?" I tell him, "It will cost you $400."

[BluesCruiser]

It will cost you $400." --127-3- LMAO

[kayakninja]

I almost fell off the chair when I read this thread. A big thumbs up to that kayak convoy for actually finding and landing bonito. It was probally a long day of paddling for them and they had their chance. Kayakfisherman know it is always the other way around. We paddle our buts off all day, we find the fish and here comes the boats, woops the fish are gone. Blitzing stripers or blues and we are having the time of our lives, oh now here come the boats, woops fish gone. (#$119) .....to say where, when, or how fishing is conducted is in direct violation of the laws of fisherman chapter 109 207a. Boaters click here (http://www.toilette-humor.com/cartoon.html) for a quick view of the rule. May we all get along...... :cool: