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striblue
01-18-2004, 11:16 PM
After coming back from the fly show with this Mirage Image fibers I did a simple bait fish..These are easy to tye as you guys already know but can be made in all sorts of shapes. Hy-tyed and low tied Puglisi style. The material is similar to neer hair, fiber blend or the EP fibers but it seems thinner and more subtle... Also there is pearl angel hair inside I put, and was not in the stuff to start with. I always have a hard time distiguishing between synthetics. It's call Migare Image fish fiber.
Jim Miller
01-19-2004, 07:39 AM
Hi John
Does this stuff actually flow back or do you need to give it a "haircut" like the Pulgasi material. I have a hard time working with the pulgasi materials and also Yak hair for that matter. This Mirage material seems like a new avenue to try. What lengths does it come in. (herring & pogy flies?) BTW: Nice looking fly!
sage fly guy
01-19-2004, 07:49 AM
Hi John
Does this stuff actually flow back or do you need to give it a "haircut" like the Pulgasi material. I have a hard time working with the pulgasi materials and also Yak hair for that matter.
ROOKIE ;)
How you like them PATS Jimbo??? :cool:
striblue
01-19-2004, 07:59 AM
Jim..it is finner and does flow back so you need to cut it the way you want it..I think it is easier to work with..but close to the others and comes in the usual packets sizes... about the same length as EP fibers. It's a blend of a kinky fiber and something else although it does not have the ripples that kinky fiber has.
sage fly guy
01-19-2004, 08:02 AM
John,
The fly looks like a killer. As usual.
There was a fellow a couple down from Dave Skok who did some similiar. His material of choice was called "Awesome Hair". Is it me or is it getting harder to remember all the types of hair?
Sometime I'd like to line up all the different types of hair I have and just pick the best one.
Pats in a rout.
chris
Jim Miller
01-19-2004, 08:06 AM
Hey Chris
I was thinking of those flies you showed me in NC. You know....the ones your DAUGHTER tied....... Really nice!
How about posting a pic or instructions! Or at least giving a rookie some help! He He Har!
Rookie?....and I can't catch fish either?
BTW: Since only women only showed up to play for the Jets & Giants this season....I guess I'll have to support the Pats! Go PATS!!!! --126-3- --126-3- --127-3-
sage fly guy
01-19-2004, 08:12 AM
My only tip when tying "Puglisi style" is to use less material. If you think it's right, take away 1/2 still. Simple layers, starting with a long tail then 2, 3or4 sections on top and bottom, folded back on each other. One down each lateral line, I like to use pink. Work some flash in along the way. Comb all the way out. Vigorously. Then trim like a Basic Training barber. Glue eyes and off you go.
Jim in person you'd pick it up after 1 fly.
chris
Jim Miller
01-19-2004, 08:22 AM
Thanks Chris
6 inch PINFISH patterns on a sinking line! (tied sparsely) In the NC offshore "SPOT"!!!!
striblue
01-19-2004, 08:47 AM
Chris and Jim..yes.. I can't distiguish the names anymore... and the differences are getting to close especially when one manufacturer is just blending other previous sold material. Anyway.. I tyed this fly without folding back .Just tying in the material like a polar fiber bait fish. It seemed that it helped with the sparsness to not fold over and seemed to blend each portion more evenly than the fold back... But there probabaly is no difference.
Animal Chris
01-19-2004, 12:37 PM
I tie something similar with Neer hair and a small cone behind the eye. Fished on the end of a WF-8-I SA Mastery Striper you can fish it almost suspended. I have good luck with that pattern in a black back, orange belly and barred dark yellow mid section for cold water speckled trout fishing. Lighter colors and a little less broad profile (more like a mullet) work well in the warmer months in the surf or around the outside of the jetties.
sage fly guy
01-19-2004, 05:30 PM
I recently read an article eihter in Marlin or Big Game about how fish actually see color.
One of the colors that was mentioned that should be used more is ORANGE.
Personally I've never tied a dang thing in orange, maybe I should be.
I recently read an article eihter in Marlin or Big Game about how fish actually see color.
One of the colors that was mentioned that should be used more is ORANGE.
Personally I've never tied a dang thing in orange, maybe I should be.
I read the same article, so yesterday I sat and tied a soft hackle marabou in orange . We will see. Joe
striblue
01-20-2004, 06:24 AM
I don't know much about Marlin..but if you look at Trey Comb book on Big Game fly fishing a lot of flys don't have orange..Shark flies are big on Red and Combs swears by any bright colors as long as there's plenty of flash also. I know no Tuna flies have orange, but I suppose they could. I started a thread , not sure if it was here about fishing seeing the color red and most responses discussed the depth of water and color refraction. I do know of one guy who used ,with success , a tiny orange fly, a type of bonefish fly, on stripers on Monomoy and had success.
sage fly guy
01-20-2004, 07:22 AM
Funny sometimes how a thread takes a turn.
Someone previous mentioned using orange to tie. Reminded me of the article, which I will try to find again. As usual it related to how fish actually percieve color. Pink turning blue at about 25 feet. Red disappearing from the spectrum after only about 20 feet. I found that interesting. Orange actually stood out the best although I forget the dynamics of the whole color change.
I will find the info and pass it along.
Animal Chris
01-20-2004, 08:21 AM
One of the most successful color combinations of Soft Head offshore lures is the "Red Hook" designed by Capt. Red Baily of the VI. This lure is black over orange. I have found orange to be a good color in the colder months along the Texas coast. Ray Chapa has a trout (fw) called the Guadalupana that is mostly olive, but I added an orange tail to it and it is a great winter and early spring redfish fly. A lot of the hardware chunkers use a mirrolure that is black back, chartrooz sides (with or with out black stripes) and an orange belly. A yellow with orange tail shrimp tail works great in the summer months for specks and redfish. Add an orange skirt over a blue water trolling bait on a cloudy day, most charter boats off the Pacific coast of Mexico have at least one orange bait in the spread, the list goes on. I don't know if it is realted to the warmer climes, local forage, or just what, but lures and flies with orange in the scheme will catch fish.
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