Warranties on used fly rods

[iwilder]

I'm in the market for a new 9' 9wt. rod and I am considering a used rod. Is the original life-time warranty on some high dollar transferrable. I believe they once were and I have heard that some still are. Does anyone have any experience with this? A transferrable warranty would make the used rod a good deal more valuable to me.

My other option would be a TFO TiCr.

Thanks,

Ike

[ikan besar]

Loomis rods do not have serial numbers on them, and therefore have no way of identifying who the original owner was. In addition, they have the fastest warranty repair/replace policy in the business: new rod in 48 hours.

[Roop]

Why worry about it?

If you like the TFO buy it.

[saltyric]

Go with the TFO!

[Johnny P.]

Agreed Indeed...go w/ the TFO and be safe. Lifetime Warrantee, no fuss, awesome rod!

[striperboyz]

Go with TFO!!!!!!!! I haven't had to send a rod into them yet, but they are stand up guys and probably would ask no questions.

[ruge13]

St Croix's anyone can send back.

[sage fly guy]

Yeah, if you like it grab the Korean rod, I mean TFO.

[ikan besar]

graphite from Bainbridge Island will snap just as easily as graphite from Seoul. ;) ...been there, broke both. --124-3

[sage fly guy]

graphite from Bainbridge Island will snap just as easily as graphite from Seoul. ;) ...been there, broke both. --124-3

There I go again inciting trouble.... I'm so simple....... --127-3-

[striperboyz]

There I go again inciting trouble.... I'm so simple....... --127-3-

he's just mad that Lefty left Sage for TFO ;)

[joe e.]

I'm in the market for a new 9' 9wt. rod and I am considering a used rod. Is the original life-time warranty on some high dollar transferrable. I believe they once were and I have heard that some still are. Does anyone have any experience with this? A transferrable warranty would make the used rod a good deal more valuable to me.

My other option would be a TFO TiCr.

Thanks,

Ike
I broke a sage rplx that I bought second hand at a show last spring in the keys. Took the rod to a local shop and had them pack and safely ship to sage. Shop owner said bill would be a couple hundred, ok with me. Sage does repair, sends new warranty card, no charge I pay shipping $30 bucks. I immediately bought 2 new rods and am a sage guy now after 20 yrs a loyal orvis.

[sage fly guy]

I broke a sage rplx that I bought second hand at a show last spring in the keys. Took the rod to a local shop and had them pack and safely ship to sage. Shop owner said bill would be a couple hundred, ok with me. Sage does repair, sends new warranty card, no charge I pay shipping $30 bucks. I immediately bought 2 new rods and am a sage guy now after 20 yrs a loyal orvis.

Good Man.

Through stupidity and mishaps I broke 3 last year. Two weeks later good as new. That includes the one's I build myself. Blanks carry the same warranty.
While not as fast as Loomis overnight, I find the key is to have more than one. --125-3

[ruge13]

just curious, when you break a self built rod and send it back, so they send you a new blank section? Or do you get it back with finished guides? Or do you strip them offf before you send them?

[joe e.]

Good Man.

Through stupidity and mishaps I broke 3 last year. Two weeks later good as new. That includes the one's I build myself. Blanks carry the same warranty.
While not as fast as Loomis overnight, I find the key is to have more than one. --125-3
Didn't know they cover their blanks, that opens up a whole lot of options for me. Thanks for the insight. I like a wide array of lines and flies rigged and ready and currently have more tackle than my boat can handle, goal for '04 is bigger boat.

[ikan besar]

Sage Fly Guy, not "inciting trouble" at all, rather amusing actually! --127-3-

I have a number of rods from Sage and other top-price makers but not everyone wants to, or can, spend that much on a fly rod. I think what TFO has done for the rod market in the past few years is great and has allowed people to get a good rod for considerably less than you could five years ago. While I have fished a few of them (TFO), I am not a current owner. However, when people first look into fly fishing, the sticker shock is almost unanimous, so having the availability of a really good rod for half what comparable rods from other companies costs is a real benefit for many.

Now if some company will make a top-of-the-line reel for $200 that compares favorably with Charlton or Tibor and is guaranteed for life, we'll be all set :cool:

[Slappy]

Unfortunately I can tell you what happens when you send the broken custom rod back.

They saw up the remaining pieces and send it back to you with the new rod. Salvage the parts yourself...
I hate cutting guides off, but it is a lot easier when you don't have to worry about nicking the blank!

[iwilder]

Well it appears that Loomis and possibly Sage would be candidates. Anyone have any experience with Scott, Winston or Thomas?

I have broken only two rods in about 50 years of fly fishing and don't intend to break any more but it happens. I read about a number of folks on this and other lists that seem to break rod regularly. I have read about hitting your rod with a clouser and damaging it. I use clousers but don't ever recall hitting the rod. Are the newer rods more susceptible to breakage?


Thanks for all the info.

Ike

[striperboyz]

Are the newer rods more susceptible to breakage?

Ike

I think the answer is yes and no, the new technologies going into these rods probably means they are engineered and built better and are over all stronger then before, but the thing is they are using super high modulus graphite and that means the graphite is stiff and more brittle then ever, but this is making the rods faster and faster. So when a clouser smacks into the upper midsection of your rod and puts a small nick in it, those little brittle graphite fibers shatter, causing a weak spot and will break at some point.

The other thing is there are more car doors then ever in America, the #1 culprit in broken rod tips! :rolleyes:

Josh

[ikan besar]

I was on the East Cape of Baja for a few weeks this past Fall and felt sorry for an angler that was staying at my hotel who only had rods suited for offshore use rather than the beach fishing each afternoon. I loaned him a 7wt 4pc rod/reel combo. Within minutes of my handing it to him, it became a 7wt 5pc rod - gotta watch those hotel cieling fans :)

Luckily, the friend that I was traveling with, and I, had a forest of rods with us and one breakage did not inconvenience us in the least. However, the first thing we did when we arrived at the hotel on that trip was shut the fan off and never turn it back on: they cause too many problems to fishing rods, no matter how careful you are.

[joe e.]

Well it appears that Loomis and possibly Sage would be candidates. Anyone have any experience with Scott, Winston or Thomas?

I have broken only two rods in about 50 years of fly fishing and don't intend to break any more but it happens. I read about a number of folks on this and other lists that seem to break rod regularly. I have read about hitting your rod with a clouser and damaging it. I use clousers but don't ever recall hitting the rod. Are the newer rods more susceptible to breakage?


Thanks for all the info.

Ike
This brings something to mind, I was ready for a new rod and reddington was marketing a titanium powder resin or blank. Local sage dealer confided in me that sage was doing almost as much warranty work as new sales,not good. Factory rep (reddington) tells shop that the rod is much more resistant to clouser slap but can't explain how,they laugh at the guy. He is a salesman, not lab tech. Sage buys reddington, continues production in low end but discontinues the high end. The next generation rod the XI appears. as a mason I have practical field experiance with mixing metal powder and acryilics in cements and I can tell you a half in application can be hit with a hammer the next day and it may leave a small dent.
I personally never use clousers, prefer shooting tapers, but I do believe this is what happened with these 2 rod company's.