View Full Version : What line to get down 60' ?
Mark Dougherty
07-27-2004, 01:14 PM
What is the fastest sinking line made ? Will be using a 10wt in some blue holes down Bahamas way..? :confused:
Do a search for this. Someone was asking a similar question last month. The high # I heard was 1100 grain (just crazy). But with a 10 weight, you may want to try a 600 grain. At 60 feet you'll need to cast some, strip off a ton, and let it sink.
ruge13
07-27-2004, 01:36 PM
Or try a head section of LC13. Lead core. Gets down in a hurry. I have a head section I use on a fast 10 wt that is LC13 around 20 feet of it. It definately gets down, but I have never tried to do it at 60'. Just around 30...
Pauper Piscator
07-27-2004, 01:37 PM
60' ?
Boat Rod with a 5 oz sinker and power pro.
Life is too short to wait for things to sink.
I have a 700 something grain for my tuna rod that I will throw on my 10 or 9 weight occasionally - not fun.
When fishing off Chatham and the fish are deep I always wonder about the enjoyability factor for the guys out there on a charter, on a flats boat, casting a sinking line, dumnping out running line behind it, then sitting around waiting & waiting & waiting for it to get down.....
My point is, fishing time is too precious - bring a travelling spin rod & some jigs & catch some fish - there's some monsters in those holes... :eek:
Strat
07-27-2004, 02:09 PM
A 550 grain RIO will get you about as deep as you're gonna get and still be able to cast. This is a lot of line even for a "fast" 10wt.
I fish the RIO 450 on a 10wt Xi2 in 45' and can get to the bottom relatively quickly. Couple of skates on the boat last week confirmed this :rolleyes:
Check the manufacturer's websites for sink rates...you'll be surprised at the differences. My 450 gets down considerably faster than the Cortland 625 QD. Fished next to a friend with the Cortland 625 on an 11wt and you could see the difference in sink rate and belly in the line. Rio takes the cake hands down in this regard.
Taking it to the next level would involve using t-14 and running line but this setup isn't much fun to cast and you'll have to be careful not to snap the rod.
And for you spin guys :) .....the monsters in those holes will come to a fly quite nicely --127-3-
And for you spin guys :) .....the monsters in those holes will come to a fly quite nicely --127-3-
I agree, but like I said , time is precious, I'd rather have a spinning rod ready to go instead of wasting a day trying to figure out a drift & currents to get a fly down in there...
RE: sink rates - I have a hard time believing what line companies post as sink rates - for instance, a 525 grain sinks at 8 IPS = 40' in 1 minute, not accounting for any current or drag from a fly. For me, time stands still when I'm waiting for a strike but 1 minute?... :rolleyes:
Strat
07-27-2004, 02:51 PM
[QUOTE=Roop]I'd rather have a spinning rod ready to go instead of wasting a day trying to figure out a drift & currents to get a fly down in there...QUOTE]
I can relate to that. It can definitely get a bit tedious but I've found that lots of fish will hit on the drop which holds my attention a little better.
No doubt you can and will catch more fish on the spin rod in this environment. Probably more so with bait. But I dig fly fishing and think the idea of picking big fish that deep on a flyrod is pretty cool...maybe a little bit (#$119)
loophitech
07-27-2004, 04:27 PM
Not that is too often that I need to get down to 60 ft, however....
For a saltwater salmon/steelhead setup on a 9' 9 wt RPLXi, I use a 30 ft T-14 section as a shooting head and then attach it to a RIO slick shooter running line at 120ft long. Shoots like a canon and gets to where the fishies are. If you try this setup you will like it, gauranteed. It completely negates getting all sorts of fancy lines.
sage fly guy
07-27-2004, 06:34 PM
The Cortland 444SL 625 Quick Descent get down to the depths quite nicely.
I've used it effectively in water as deep as 90 feet. At a 9 inch per second descent rate 60 feet is attainable in less than a minute and a half.
If you can't weight that long for the chance at a fish of a lifetime on the fly, you need some Ritalin or something.
When I used to do a lot of largemouth fishing I learned a neat way to fish at night. Cast a hula popper or jitter bug, let it sit, light up a smoke and when you were done with the whole smoke twitch it for the first time.
chris
Mark Dougherty
07-28-2004, 09:01 AM
Thanks folks. Looking at Teeny line also. Actually it will be a gift for a friend
in Abaco......probably the best caster I have seen....but he likes going deep
for big Grouper/snappers and anything else big....great feed back...my thanks
:-%
I've used it effectively in water as deep as 90 feet. At a 9 inch per second descent rate 60 feet is attainable in less than a minute and a half.
Chris, buddy, pal... 9 inches a second.... we're still talking about fly lines right?
I will make a point of timing the drop this weekend - care to join me?
sage fly guy
07-28-2004, 09:26 AM
Chris, buddy, pal... 9 inches a second.... we're still talking about fly lines right?
I will make a point of timing the drop this weekend - care to join me?
I'd let you try the line itself, but your not manly enough to weild it. :)
Trust me this line leaves your site in the water in less than 3 seconds, I think their stated sink rate is way to conservative. It doesn't cast worth squirt but when you need to get down fast, it get's the job done.
For something to sink really, really fast, I've finished a handmade 1400 gr. 30' shooting head. Think that will sink fast enough??
chris
I'd let you try the line itself, but your not manly enough to weild it. :)
For something to sink really, really fast, I've finished a handmade 1400 gr. 30' shooting head. Think that will sink fast enough??
chris
Bring both of them you little weasel...
I'll pick you up at the herring run at 5:00 AM Saturday.
Roop
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