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Guile
03-06-2005, 03:27 PM
Hi,
I am looking for a reel in the 100-150$ range, is there any reel that can beat the Teton Tioga in that category ? (I never tried it but I heard and read so many good things about it...)

Secondary question, Large arbor vs standard arbor ? Any difference in the rod/reel balance ?

FlyFishMich
03-06-2005, 10:01 PM
Solid reel for the money...its a substantial reel and ironically, the large arbor version weighs more than the standard arbor. (#$119) You gain NO advantage in buying the LA version of this particular reel. IMO, buy the stardard arbor and take advantage of the additional backing capacity.

There are quite a few other reels in the same price range and perhaps someone else has had experience with them?

I am not sure what they are priced at currently but a Ross C-4 or C-5 are excellent reels.

albacized
03-07-2005, 07:33 AM
I would put in a plug for the Sci Angler 2 series. Although, I hadn't fished one in close to 10 years and don't know if they've undergone any changes that would compromise their quality, the one I had was tough as nails and still working great: I sold it by mere choice of wanting to upgrade although there was no real need to do so at that point.

dlangan
03-07-2005, 12:59 PM
I have a Teton Tioga (~7 years) that simply won't quit. No doubt the other reels mentioned are solid as well. It has seen many a fish in the NE and tropics, and last year met it's toughest match - my son. I agree that there is no advantage to the large arbor. Get the regular spool and add more backing.

Guile
03-07-2005, 09:53 PM
Thanks guys for your thoughs, the Tioga is high on my list of reel.
But what do you think about those compare to the Tioga:

- Lamson Radius (with the great Lamson drag)
- Okuma Helios
- Pflueger Trion, Redington CD (they are really close in look)

Roop
03-08-2005, 12:10 PM
Great price, great warranty service, I've had stripers, blues, albies, bonito, spanish mack's, several tarpon (none landed), 1 seal (didn't land that either) & 1 fully rigged anchor all landed on my #10.

Just go buy one ;)

Roop

Guile
03-08-2005, 02:35 PM
Sorry another question.

Differences between the Tioga and the Tioga magnum ?

FlyFishMich
03-08-2005, 03:09 PM
Sorry another question.

Differences between the Tioga and the Tioga magnum ?

I searched Teton's website and there was no mention of a "tioga magnum"? Perhaps you know something that they don't? :)

I think you may be overanalyzing this purchase a bit? The advice on here is good, to a point, but eventually you have to make the final decision, or just move on and look at a different product. Based on the rod that you purchased, it is my feeling that the Teton Tioga #8 would balance and compliment the T&T HS907, not to mention that Teton are excellent products.....NEXT!!! :-%

Guile
03-08-2005, 03:18 PM
I know I am overanalysing a bit but it's part of my pleasure (#$119) , I am a little bit crazy with the gear.

You can see the Tioga magnum here: http://www.traditionalangler.com/Teton_Tioga_Magnum.asp
Or here (on the nice Ray's pictures): http://reel-time.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41746&highlight=magnum
I might know something that Teton's guys don't indeed... :-%

FlyFishMich
03-08-2005, 04:44 PM
They now call it the "specialist" and its $240 for the #8. Basically its a wider spool/reel which gives more of the benefits of a true large arbor reel (ie more consistent drag pressure as fish run into backing. etc). Backing capacity is improved by about 25 yards. I don't see any "reel" (sorry for the pun) advantage to the "magnum".

MauiFlats
03-09-2005, 02:57 AM
Hi Guile,

As I'm sure you've seen in doing your research on Teton fly reels, there is the 'prettier' Teton line of reels, and the nice-looking Tioga (which has the same internals as the Teton). The guys have given good advice about the Tioga 'large arbor', in that it isn't a true large arbor.

Teton introduced a true large arbor (with a large arbor plus a wider frame to allow for decent backing capacity) in their Teton Specialist, which is from the Teton line and therefore costs more, and the Tioga Magnum, which again has the same internals as the Specialist, but in the dressed-down Tioga frame. If I were buying another reel, I'd be taking a serious look at the Tioga Magnum; I love my Tioga 10 (regular arbor).

And no, I have no affiliation with Teton, I just did way too much research before I bought my gear, like you!

I think the Tioga Magnum will serve you well. If you need extra backing capacity (if you're going for large/strong species), consider going up to the Magnum #10 for your 8wt; the #10 weighs only about an ounce (or even less) more than the #8. I've got the #10 regular arbor on my 8wt, which it balances perfectly, and I've got all the backing I need for big saltwater fish.

Guile
03-09-2005, 10:14 AM
Thanks MauiFlats for your support ;)

You confirm my choice, I am now focused on buying the Tioga Magnum that really exist (even if the Teton specialist exist to ). My rod is only a 7wt, and I plan to do some light saltwater and heavy freshwater fishing. So I think the #8 would be enough for my needs.

Ray
03-09-2005, 10:51 AM
I have the Tioga Magnum #10 in gunsmoke (along with many other Tioga reels). I put on 225 yards of 20# dacron backing with 9-weight floating line. There was plenty of room for more backing too.

You will be very happy with the reel.

FlyFishMich
03-09-2005, 10:09 PM
I am now focused on buying the Tioga Magnum that really exist (even if the Teton specialist exist to ).

:rolleyes: Thanks for the education :) ...surprised that Teton would not bother to have all their products on their web-site. What you expect fom a guy that prefers his Orvis DXR 9/10 and 10wt Sage "Discovery" when fishing for tunoids? (#$119) For some reason, very little matches the grating outgoing drag of that old DXR. Sure, I have newer, more technologically advanced tackle but they haven't been able to duplicate that sound.

The #8 would be as big as you should want for the 7wt. 150 yards of backing should suffice as long as you aren't in the neighborhood of albies, "gator" blues, or excessively large bass.

Guile
03-10-2005, 09:48 AM
The #8 would be as big as you should want for the 7wt. 150 yards of backing should suffice as long as you aren't in the neighborhood of albies, "gator" blues, or excessively large bass.

Don't worry, I already use a 9wt setup for the big guys :brow

MauiFlats
03-12-2005, 03:26 AM
The #8 would be as big as you should want for the 7wt. 150 yards of backing should suffice as long as you aren't in the neighborhood of albies, "gator" blues, or excessively large bass.

Ah good call FlyFishMich, I didn't realize Guile's putting the reel on a 7wt... and I agree, strange that Teton doesn't have their website up to date!

Sounds like you'll be perfect with the Magnum 8, Guile... good luck with the new set up, let us know how you do.

Guile
03-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Thanks MauiFlats, I can't wait to go out for playing with my T&T...

I just have to pick the right lines, and go fishing !

PAX
03-16-2005, 08:04 PM
Salut Guillaume,

Ah ben ca alors moi qui croyais etre le seul frenchy sur ce site.

Ray conviced me to buy a Tioga last year. I did and I love it. I especially like the fact that extra spools are affordable. I am actually looking a the Magnum #10 myself. To answer your earlier question the Magnum is a true large arbor the regular Tioga is not. I was with Ray when he picked his Magnum. This is a beautiful reel with Teton/Tioga quality and reliability. You can't go wrong.

Salut,

Guile
03-17-2005, 09:55 AM
Salut Patrick, BONNE FETE ! Merci pour ton conseil !

Thanks a lot, I am going to buy the Tioga magnum in gun-smoke --127-3- no doubt anymore ;)

Have a nice St Patrick day :-%

Ray
03-17-2005, 10:06 AM
My new #10 Tioga Magnum in use a few weeks ago!!!!

Worked like a charm on Bones way bigger than this runt too!!!

El Bishop
05-18-2005, 03:42 PM
So for a 9 wt rod, would you guys recommend the Ross Cimarron 5 or the Tioga SA 10?

Thanks!!