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scruffy_fish
10-23-2005, 07:05 PM
I've been surffing the web since I haven't been able to get OTW this weekend do to family and weather, but came across this intersting article on a down under web site. Something to think about if you kayak alone.

Kayak Fisherman Harassed by Shark

I got a phone call from a very shaken kayak fisherman who was recently harassed by a very large shark while fishing around 800 meters offshore on the east coast of Northland.

The shark started it's relentless harassment of the kayak while the fisherman was hauling in a boat longline (yes it was one of ours) with fish on. The shark was taking or mauling the fish on the longline right under the kayak as the line was being hauled in.

In a bit of a panic and keen to put some distance between himself and the agressive shark, the fisherman quickly cut away the longline and accidentally sliced himself deeply above the knee in the process, this cut bled profusely.

The fisherman, obviously shocked by all this, then paddled very slowly away from the longline. Unfortunately, once the line was cut the shark shifted all of it's attention onto the kayak, it started by circling, and then bumping against the kayak. Occasionaly the shark would submerge only to come up from the depths and bump into the kayak from below.

The fisherman then put all of his remaining bait and burley into a plastic bag and tossed it well away from the kayak in the hope that this would divert the sharks attention, it almost worked as the shark went over to investigate the cause of the splash where the bait bag had landed, but to his horror it returned seconds later.

During the worst parts of the harrassment the fisherman was nearly knocked out of the kayak by the shark several times and had to put his legs over the side and into the water to regain balance.

He also vomited several times during the attack, probably due to the shock of being exposed to a serious and life threating situation for such an extended period of time.

In all the shark hit the kayak between 15 and 20 times with different parts of it's anatomy including the body, dorsal fin and tail.

When the fisherman was only 150 to 200 meters offshore the back of the kayak was hit violently and the stern momentarily went under. As soon as he had regained balance the fisherman poured on the power with the paddle and, as he reached the shallow weed line near the rocks, he glanced over his shoulder to see the shark close behind, but veering away to avoid the reef.

How Big Was the Shark

The shark was huge, on one pass at right angles and just under the center of the kayak the fisherman noted the width of the head was greater than the distance from the back of his seat to the front of his foot rests, his estimate is a meter or more between the eyes. On this pass the dorsal fin hit the kayak amidships and almost capsized it.

As for the length he noted that the shark tail extended "five to six feet" behind the stern of the kayak when the head of the shark was level with the front. He said the kayak is "twelve and a half feet long" so the shark must have been between 17' 6" to 18' 6' long or 5.33 to 5.64 meters!

What Sort of Shark was it

The fisherman describes the shark as having a shiny, almost jet black top and very white undersides. He mentioned the pectoral fins and tail were huge and he was adamant the tail was positioned vertically on the shark (which rules out a killer whale or other dolphin). He said the dorsal fin never rose higher than 300 to 400mm above the water although, as the back of the huge fish never broke the surface, it could have been longer.

He also noted the front of the head was flat and not pointed, this may rule out a white pointer, otherwise a great white would fit the rest of the description perfectly.

Why Did the Shark Attack the Kayak

Struggling hooked fish is probably the most powerful shark attractant available.

Sharks can pick up vibrations from struggling fish from kilometers away almost instantly, and this is probably what brought the shark to the boat in the first place.

When the shark arrived it took some fish from the longline which likely put it into a feeding mode, the added smell of blood in the water from the fish it had mauled would have probably kept in interested in the area.

Blood from the bait and burley thrown overboard, and any that was being washed off the deck of the kayak, plus the vomit and bleeding from the badly cut knee would have all added to the sharks curiousity in the kayak.

How to Minimize Risk

If you are setting a longline from a kayak, I would suggest baiting the line on shore, or at least have the bait cut up and in a waterproof container on the kayak, so that line setting times and bloody mess are minimised.

When hauling the line, do it as quickly as possible and iki or kill the fish as soon as they are landed, as the vibrations of a dying fish on deck will be amplifed by the hull.

Keep all fish and bait as well as any burley in leak proof containers. Doing this will make any blood and offal less likely to leak or wash over the side and possibly set up a burley trail leading straight to the kayak.

averagejoe
10-24-2005, 08:11 AM
That's New Zealand right?

scruffy_fish
10-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Got it from a kite fishing site from down under, I think New Zealand.
Had interest in it because my nepew lost his lfe long friend to a kayak shark attack a couple of years ago off the east coast of Florida. He wasn't fishing but was in abait ball and was spoted from shore as being bumped out of his yak.

kayakninja
10-24-2005, 11:45 PM
In three seasons of kayak fishing now I have yet to have an encounter that I could identify. I have seen sharks on several occasions around Winthrop. I am not an expert in sharks but most seem to be small browns or other. Nothing over the 4-5' mark.

However, I have been bumped hard once, last year around Thatchers Island when there were grey seals hugging the rocks. There is a drop that goes from 30' to 60' around the north turn of Thatchers. I thought at the time it was a big grey seal smacking the kayak from underneath but after talking to a Marine Biologist at a local coffee shop, I was told that it may be unlikely a grey seal could move a kayak at force. It was enough force to knock my glasses crooked and I kept on paddling right to shore.

In early spring around Nauset last year I went with a group of anglers kayak fishing the inlet. A basking shark was way off the distance along with small whales spying. Nice to see. I left to head home after the day of fishing. The next day a fellow from New Jersey was followed in by a large shark. One of the anglers spent time out in CA and identified it as a White Shark.

When I cruise around Winthrop at night trolling eels alone in deep water I think about sharks now and then. I sometimes just move in close to shore to work the rocks. LOL

Stealth has positives and negatives. LOL :brow

ruge13
10-25-2005, 09:29 AM
Hang a chum bag off your kayak at night. That will draw them right in:rolleyes:

Seals bumping kayaks from below is realtively common. You will rarely see them below before or after the bump, a white streak here or there with pups. But then a couple seconds later you hear a snort over your shoulder letting you know it was them. I've tried tossing mackerel and pollack to them but no one ever wants to play--124-3 . Harbors and grey pups (look very similar) will do the same, its more common to kayakers in the off season months when there are more around up here. In that vacinity you are talking about I've been bumped a couple times. But like you said, its usually just a light bump, doesn't cause any jarring, just enough to rattle your nerves. Wonder what you got knocked by? too bad, or maybe good you never saw it!

Every once in a while you hear people get bumped around monomoy. I imagine the Greys doing that bumping have no problem throwing a kayak over.

One picture I do remember vividly, I was maybe 2 miles off Nauset one day last year, I forget when. Pleanty of seals, and a few whales. This was before that little dogfish was in the Naushon petting zoo last year. So I started getting an erie feeling because I was alone and there was a lot of life around me, and like you said Jeff, plenty of people have been followed out there. Every year surfers have stories of being followed or seeing large sharks in the surf out there. Also all theose stories floating aorund about the whites off monomoy. Anyway, I decided I didn't feel like being jumpy so I would head in closer and fish the surf.

Climbed up on the dune and saw this.... Small whale or dolphin, had been there for some time. But notice the round chunk missing above the tail. No doubt caused by coyotes chewing on the carcass but at the tme I didn't think about that. It was round and symetrical enough to make me stay close that day. Its what you don't know that gets ya...

Last April I was out with my girlfriend in the harbor. Had a warm day windless day so we paddled over to one of the islands. First day in her kayak, the rest of her experience was in rivers/lakes. Anyway, half way out a hole opened up in the water next to her, 10 - 20 ft away maybe. Startled me a bit, she screemed. I calmed her down and told her it was a seal or a harbor porpose. She swore it was bigger. Turned out to be that baby humpback that was in the harbor last spring. I thought for sure I'd never get her out again after that screem.

Anyone notice they were talking about long lining out of a kayak? Thats got to be a project and a half...

kayakninja
10-25-2005, 10:21 AM
This was from a CA website. Shot from a kayak fisherman somewhere in Southern CA. This is a sight that would scare the doody out of me.

I am hoping that choosing a kayak over the 13' foot mark would deter a white shark from breaching my hull from a hard charge. Discovery channel had a show on that cardboard seal cut out and whitey came charging up and breached to snag it. :eek: It was about 8' long, the size of a large grey seal.


unprovoked white attack on kayak (http://www.sharkresearchcommittee.com/unprovoked_kayaker.htm)

smcisaac
03-05-2007, 08:13 AM
I was shore fishing on Dogfish Bar on Martha's Vineyard a few years ago with a T&T sales rep. We had been talking about the advantages of fishing the Bar from a canoe rather than the beach. He said that although it is not common, sharks have been seen there before, so you should always use caution wading or paddling there. We were gazing out across the flats to identify some spots you couldn't reach from shore when he spotted a huge dorsal just past the drop-off that he thought was probably a Great White. Needless to say, talk of canoes petered out rather abruptly.

Sean Juan
03-07-2007, 03:06 PM
I have seen a lot of sharks over the years but never been bumped by them.

So far the scariest sight is a guy standing in his bow shouting, "What are you using for bait" while heading right to you. Have a a very interesting calf to ankle scar from that one.

Ray
03-07-2007, 03:23 PM
I've never been bumped by something alive. But I did bottom out on the rocks at the end of faun bar in the middle of the night once. Scared the......

you know the rest :eek:

CO FLy
03-07-2007, 05:27 PM
How would you feel about this

dlangan
03-08-2007, 05:57 AM
One of the young men in our group had a ~5' sheark nar him for a bit one day last year. Bob Parsons saw it too and identified it as a basking shark. I remain bummed I wasn't there to see it.

Same week, we were observing some sizable stripers (we spooked 'em) at the mouth of a small South shore river while making a morning run out to look for blues. So, seeing that we decided to return to the mouth at night. We were perhaps 200 yds. offshore in 5-6' of water. Suddenly I hear an explosion under Don's kayak. I yell and ask if he's alright. He says he is but a bit shaken. I make a paddle over to him to learn his kayak apparently spooked "something" under him and that something bolted for open water in a hurry almost throwing him out of his kayak in the process. Seal? Maybe but never saw one there that close to shore. Shark? Maybe, they are suppose to be there but have yet to see one. In any event, we were happy to fish in the river the remainder of that night.

Still love being on the water at night though... guess I got my fragile courage back :rolleyes:

capecodkid
03-13-2007, 04:03 PM
We've encountered many kinds of sharks on our boats. Never on one of our yaks before.

SteveP
08-06-2008, 10:14 PM
About 8ft. in Sarasota FL. After repeated casts my friend in the picture caught a remora off it's back.

http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/medium/7874shark.jpg

Onshore
08-08-2008, 06:14 AM
My friend Jim Timmins was down here for three months this winter/spring and we did a lot of kayak fishing in the lagoons, etc. We were way up in the EauGallie River one evening when I felt a bump on the bottom of the kayak and then another, and another. Jim was about 50 yards away and experienceing the same thing.

It was close to dark and pretty scary till we figured out it was Manatees bumping us. However, there are a lot more sharks in these waters than I was used to in New England. Something, along with the Alligators you just have to be aware of here if you'r going to fish these waters.

marvin
08-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Take a look at some of the west coast yak boards- there are bunches of guys out there that target threshers from their yaks......

lhonda
08-11-2008, 09:39 PM
I have seen a lot of sharks over the years but never been bumped by them.

So far the scariest sight is a guy standing in his bow shouting, "What are you using for bait" while heading right to you. Have a a very interesting calf to ankle scar from that one.

I guess you could say that your story had us both in stitches... ;)

Those types are dangerous, and sorry you got hurt, but thanks for the giggle just the same.

L