Cod and Dogfish report

[wasabi]

Went out on Saturday. Delayed departure by an hour . . . then another hour. So we couldn't get far. The current was FAST! The coming storm was moving things around! Waves were getting higher by the minute and the wind was really picking up.

Tried some structure around B-buoy. All DOGS. Moved in a bit and was on to some cod. Had to keep moving because it didn't take much for dogs to swarm an area. Got 3 cod. Lost one. Hooked up on too many dogs. And lost 4 jigs. The current was so fast that it was difficult to avoid getting hung up on some structure.

The 2 guys responsible for late our departure got SICK SICK SICK. Poetic Justice! We heard the coast guard on 16 give a gale warning . . . tried for a bit longer (just to rub it in the sick guys' noses). Then headed back in rain that fell sideways.

Some of you stated that you limit out on cod this time of the year. I'd love to "limit out" on another trip but . . . this $%#^ weather! Any such thing as "fac conditions" in late October/learly December?

[north coast]

Any such thing as "fac conditions" in late October/learly December?................as bizzare as it may seem right now, it actually does happen. Was out saturday in same general area as well. got 7 nice cod to 20lbs.and twice, hooked up triple header pollack. big ones, 10 to maybe 20lbs.cool,thought I had the mother of all cod.

[wasabi]

I probably saw you out there. Besides a few commerical vessels, I only saw 2 other boats.

[greenboat]

Noth Coast- Bait or jigs ?

[Capt.Sickdog]

Wasabi

lay off the bait. stick to a diamond jig with no bright teasers and stay right on the bottom with a steady jig. you will do much better on the cod. always works for me

[striperman13]

The Cod fishing is only going to get better between now and Dec 1 when the plan is to close the entire bay. Get out there while you can, as weather permits. Believe it or not there are many days that we have been fishing in t-shirts in late November early December. I second the jig-teaser method. Jigs on the bottom, no bait = No Dogs. There are some good spots Northeast of the B-buoy. 16-24 oz jigs are all you need.

[greenboat]

Will be out there this weekend unless I get tempted into a tuna chunk..Will be bouncing around the NWC/ Dumping Grounds..

[Capt.Sickdog]

was gonna do the same but got the call to head offshore. leaving for chatham thursday night for the bite. will have the cod rod to jig up dinner while watching ballons --125-3 . Greenboat, you should have no problem limiting out. FYI, was getting more haddock with squid on teasers earlier this season.

[JAVIDANGLER]

The diamond jig works real well along the South Shore.
No teaser, and right on the bottom. The other change that is needed is to the hook from a treble to a single. 7/0 to 8/0 seem to work best. The cod will swallow them, and you will find far fewer lost fish. Use a treble and they hang up on everything, especially the tough red weed that grows along there.

[Capt.Sickdog]

another idea is you can keep your treble and use the titanium release split rings for the conection between the hook and jig. Cabelas is the only place I know that sells them. when you hook bottom and pull hard enough the hook will release and you just replace the .60 hook. or the 20 lb mono conection workd good too. just another idea :-%

[assinippi]

Interesting report. On Saturday I was wallowing around Graves, Martins and 3 1/2 fathom with nothing to show except one short cod who managed to get itself fouled on a single hook diamond jig. With an 18' Center Console I wasn't interested in venturing out to the B bouy. Was I just in too far? I was watching a few other folks jigging in the same areas with no joy either. Friday I found cod on 70-80' high spots off Plymouth and thought the outer harbor should be starting to produce. I was using teasers off Plymouth, didn't get any dogs and did get most of my fish on the teasers.

[wasabi]

I pretty much use the same "teaser on top of diamond jigs" set up every time I go cod fishing. Maybe it's time to experiment a little. Anyhow. Everything we hooked up was caught on the teaser. And after we lost several jigs, I was thinking of just rigging up clam bait rigs with lead to avoid hang ups but the boat was so rocky and the tackle box was flying around, I just kept on fishing.

But I had a small striper plug . . . so I took out the split ring and replaced the 200lb+ split ring that's on the diamond jig. Still got hung up and still lost the jig. That 20lb mono connection sounds like a really good idea. Just a cinch knot on the jig and the hook?

Fri: NW Winds 5 to 10 kt, increasing to 10 to 15 kt early in the afternoon. Seas 1 foot or less.

Friday is looking good.

[Codfisher]

If you are losing alot of jigs I would look at how you are tending bottom and the jig stroke you are using.

another idea is you can keep your treble and use the titanium release split rings for the conection between the hook and jig. Cabelas is the only place I know that sells them. when you hook bottom and pull hard enough the hook will release and you just replace the .60 hook. or the 20 lb mono conection workd good too. just another idea :-%

Might work for markets but it sounds like a way to lose a whale cod to me. I use 21 oz jigs with 12/0 trebles and a teaser tied 18" above the jig on a 6 ft piece of 130lb fluro for the leader. It takes a lot of beating and I havent lost any jigs to bite offs when the cod inhaled the jig. The only jig I lost this year was when a blue dog decided he needed braces. --125-3

[wasabi]

Never lost so many rigs.

Sure I had 2 seasick, "we'll go fishing when ever we like" newbies on board. And most of the time, I was so busy with driving the boat, and rigging up that I wasn't even fishing. So I'm not sure exactly sure how they lost those jigs but I'm guessing that when we drifted past some structure, the current was so fast there was only a small window of opportunity to yank those jigs up and over. We got hung up probably 8 times. I spun the boat around it and freed most of them.

Where can we go to get some of those WHALE CODS that I always see in pictures?? Looks like a nice time to go on Friday!

[north coast]

Noth Coast- Bait or jigs ?
I got the pollack and the cod on jig and teasers,two red gill sand eels 6"... a foot and a half over a homemade copy of a 9 oz norweigen. tried bait ,forget it, dogfish city.got plenty of them on the jigs too.Out again this weekend,unless the weather is good enough for chatham.

[Codfisher]

I got the pollack and the cod on jig and teasers,two red gill sand eels 6"... a foot and a half over a homemade copy of a 9 oz norweigen. .


3 hook rig????....better check the regs :eek: