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joshr
12-24-2005, 09:47 AM
Posted this in the Caribbean forum...thought you guys would be interested too:

Just got back from 4 days fishing with my father out of Nottage's Cottages (North Bight, just up the road from Tranquility Hill and AIBC...fished Middle Bight too a bit). Fished with guide Charley Neymour. What a trip! Despite very mediocre weather conditions (the previous week was spectacular of course....we had a series of weak fronts that made for lots of clouds), we caught a lot of bones, including some big boys and lost the fish of a lifetime.

Day 1 was sunny in the morning but we could see the front coming from the NW...slick calm morning...hit some 3-4 lb tailing fish right out front of the lodge to get warmed up....huge number of fish...very forgiving too! Then headed in to the bight...had maybe 10 fish by lunchtime, largest about 7 lbs. several 5-6 lbs. Saw a few double digit fish, but we weren't really big fish hunting on Day 1. After lunch, things pretty much shut down with crappy weather.

Day 2 was pretty cloudy, but we got lucky and had some nice windows of sunlight when there was weather all around us. Basic strategy was big fish hunting and when we saw smaller fish, my Dad would hop on the bow to take those shots. Saw some MONSTERS in the morning...I lined a pack of double digit fish (grrrrrr) and then got a nice shot at another pack of fish over 12 lbs....made a nice cast but a small fish raced out and grabbed the fly...damn! That said, a small fish in the N. Bight this time of year is 5 lbs! Then came the heartbreaker of a fishing lifetime:

We're poling along a light bottomed flat and a single big fish starts working its way towards us head-on at 12 o'clock...could see it coming from a couple hundred feet...I had no idea how big, but big. Charlie called for a long 70-80 foot cast when the fish was still 100 feet off...not much wind, so an easy cast. One strip and the fish rushed the fly, strip strike and the thing bolted out like a rocket...almost pulled the rod right out of my hand...line flew off the deck so freakin' fast and--alas--fly line wrapped around the butt of the rod and the FLY LINE snapped on impact with the sharp edge of the reel foot. Here's the real heartbreak, though: Charley said, "If you had caught that fish, we'd be heading in to call ESPN...I didn't say anything before you made the cast because I didn't want to get you all worked up, but that was the biggest fish I've seen in 4 or 5 years and probably the 2nd biggest fish ever hooked on my boat in 27 years of guiding." Of course I asked, "how big?" Charley said, "put it this way: we catch 15 lb fish here pretty regularly in the winter, and that fish was way bigger...maybe 18 lbs, definitely well over 16."

That moment the line wrapped the rod butt will haunt me for a while I guess...I'm keeping what's left of the flyline as a token. So if anyone sees a monster bone trailing 80 feet of Royal Wulff Bermuda Triangle Taper, that's my fish!

Anyway, we ended the day in a cove where wave after wave of 4 lbers were flushing out...Dad took the bow for a while play with these easier fish and had a ball catching one after another.

Day 3: worst weather day....strong north wind and clouds...yuck. Hit some 3-5 lbers in shallow protected slick water where we could see the pushes. Got a couple brief moments of visibility and stuck my first double digit bone--a 10 pounder on a tough cross wind cast that I felt good about.

Day 4: first off, my Dad took the bow for the first couple hours to hit some smaller tailers since we knew we were going big fish hunting once the sun got up, and he doiesn't really have the casting ability to target those fish. Late morning, headed to Middle Bight to hunt in 4-6 feet of water....visibility was bad...saw some BIG fish, but no real shots at them until early afternoon when I stuck a 10 or 11 lb fish that popped off. Had 2 permit rush the boat but not really a shot. Caught a few more 5-6 lbers while searching. Had to get off the water by 2:15 to run back and get to our charter flight in time.

So, overall, an amazing trip. Charlie is a GREAT guide and a plreasure to fish with. Nottages is a simple place on a beautiful setting right on the bight. We were the only people there! Good home-cooked seafood at night. Clean, simple motel style, rooms with A/C. We saw sveral double digit fish every day, and I can only imagine what the fishing must be like in good weather conditions when you have a full day of visibility...sick! Two experienced flats fisherman with good casting skills could easily catch 30-40 bones a day if they wanted numbers or if they wanted size, there's no question good casters would get a few double digit fish each in a week that time of year.

I can't believe I busted off a world record size monster, but still a great memory to have even seen, cast to, and hooked a fish like that.

Can't wait to get back!

--Josh

Wild Bill
12-24-2005, 04:32 PM
Hey Joshr-

Sounds like a great trip with some good fish. You will recall that heart breaker for a long time. I have been to Andros multiple times and never got a double digit fish. Did not miss any, never saw one.

Looks as you will just have to go back again and again.

Thanks for sharing the trip with us.

joshr
12-24-2005, 07:02 PM
The big fish are around in numbers December-Feb...other times of year, less likely to encounter them.

--Josh

JGH
12-26-2005, 11:14 AM
I'm fishing with Charlie the last week of March. That report has my mouth watering. If it's okay, I may PM you with some questions about gear and fishing there as my trip approaches.

joshr
12-26-2005, 12:25 PM
JGH--

No prob...happy to answer any questions. Feel free to email me at my main email addy: jreibel@wgen.net.

If you tie, just tie lots of gotcha clousers in 2s and 4s with a mix of eye weights...tie some with heavier lead eyes than you would normally put on a size 2 hook. Bring a few smaller flies (traditional gotchas are fine) with bead chain eyes for tailing fish in still water, but you'll mostly use the clousers, especially if you want to hunt big fish. The fish are not leader shy, so don't worry about long leaders or fine tippets. Just bring 12# or 15# fluoro for tippet and keep your leaders to 9' maximum including butt sections. Long leaders just make it harder to turn over big flies in wind or cast accurately and have zero upside for that fishery as far as I could tell even in slick calm water.

--JHR

fmw
12-26-2005, 04:47 PM
if you didnt get perfect weather, managing to perfectly time the trip with the NYC transit strike balanced things out.


more seriously:

a. what's the theory on dec. to feb. bringing in the big bones??

b. are you mostly searching for the monsters in deep water and even ocean flats?

got to say, in six days fishing south andros last year, never cast to anything big than maybe 7 or 8 lbs.

joshr
12-26-2005, 05:59 PM
I think the water gets cool and the fronts take the smaller fish off the flats, so it's a combo of the big fish liking the cooler water and the small fish not tolerating it. Charley kept saying the colder it gets the better...up to a point of course since they do actually get a freeze down there occasionally.

We didn't fish ocean flats at all...we were in the bights the whole time...we saw enormous fish in quite shallow water, but on the last day when we wanted to really hunt for trophies, he took us to a flat in the middle bight where we fished in 4-5 feet or so, but the water is so clear you would have thought it was 2-3 feet until he showed us how far the pushpole was sinking. But, again, we did 80% of our fishing in typical 12-24" of water and saw plenty of double digit fish in those depths.

I think December is a particularly good month b/c you have both numbers and size and not too much wind generally. But if you really want to trophy hunt, Feb's the month evidently, but the weather can be sketchy, so risky.