View Full Version : Can We Talk Vises?...The Tying Kind.
ChemFly
12-28-2005, 05:21 PM
OK. I've been laboring over the same Regal vise for the past 15 years.
It's a plain, no nonsense vise that gets the job done, but I'm ready to trade up to a newer, meaner vise for tying the big stuff. When I mean big I mean 8/0+ circle hooks and big irons for bluewater species. I'm thinking of going over to a Dyna-King rotary or a big Renzetti.
Pedestal base? C-clamp? Any thoughts? Pros' con's??
Let's hear 'um. What are you folks using?
I'm changing from the Regal to the Renzetti saltwater cam traveler with the pedestal base myself. The Regal has been a good vice to me for 4 years. But I don't like how the cam features interfere with bigger flies.
Jim Miller
12-28-2005, 05:39 PM
I've been using a Dyna-King Barracuda for about 14 years. It's a big vise, heavy & well made. The jaws accomidate a size 24 or a 8/0. If you have "big paws" you will appreciate the non-dainty nature of this vice. I use the pedestal version.
Try one out!
tsheehy
12-28-2005, 05:50 PM
Another vote for the Dynaking Barracuda.. nice big, heavy-duty vise gets the job done.
-- Tom
msiler
12-28-2005, 10:13 PM
I own both the Renzetti Saltwater (w/knob not clamp) and the Dynaking Barracuda. The renzetti sits on a shelf and is only used when friends come to tie with me...that about sums it up.
The Barracuda is heavy and indestructible. Plus is fits everything I put in it and holds big hooks TIGHT no matter how hard I spin deer hair or tug on my thread for big saltwater flies!
Chuckster
12-28-2005, 10:16 PM
I have a Renzetti Traveler C-clamp that I bought about 8 years ago, great vise. I think I'll finally drive down to see Scott at the Bear's Den and buy the Pedestal Saltwater Cam Traveler. I'm hoping that the shaft size is the same so I can use the C-clamp or the pedestal with either one.
The current Traveler I have is OK, but it has the old knob style rather than the new cam, which I'm certain has better holding power. I figure with those two vises I should have a good range of hook size. I love the rotary range of the Renzettis...
Good luck with your search!
BIG PAPA
12-29-2005, 07:11 AM
If you are looking to tye big fleyes you would be better off with a HMH Pro model. HMH vices allow for jaw replacement, a magnum jaw will allow you to tye fleyes up to 10/0 comfortably, with no hook slippage. call John at HMH or e-mail him ,he is a really good guy.
Glenn
dlangan
12-29-2005, 07:49 AM
I too have an (old) HMH vise which would be comparable with today's pro version. I do like the interchangable jaws and go between the trout and magnum frequently. I rarely use the midge jaws but then again I only fish flies below a #20 once or twice a year (most :-) and the trout jaws handle that hook anyways...
I do have C-clamp and pedestal. I wind up using the C-clamp almost exclusively. I tie in a variety of odd places of differing table heights - hence the C-clamp.
I know there's a number of great vises out there and haven't looked at them in well... forever. The praise for the baraccuda is interesting.
Fin Addiction
12-29-2005, 08:06 AM
Another vote for the dyna king barracuda. I tie anything from trout ot 5oz lead head jigs on 10/0 mustads....
The jaws have a recess groove in them for saltwater style flies....clamp it in and it aint moving....:-%
ChemFly
12-29-2005, 08:09 AM
My visual survey of the Fly Tying Show in NJ this past November illustrated a high percentage of DK Barracudas being used by saltwater tyers. One tyer, Rich Tilly of Queenstown MD, was using two at one time to suspend the works of a squid fly that he was tying. The whole span of the fly and leader configuration had to be 18-20 inches between the two vises. That was an impressive use of tying vises! :)
Anyway, being able to hold large irons are important for my next stage in tying.
I've been using my old Regal in a C-clamp configuration, which is fine for freshwater bugs, but I might switch to a stationary-base model so long as the base is heavy enough to handle the tension and downward force of tying big flies with mono. So far the Regal in a C-clamp can handle all of the pressure that is required- it just does'nt hold very large hooks.
mdrew9
12-29-2005, 08:17 AM
I have the Renzetti Saltwater Traveler. It can't clamp down hard enough onto big hooks, and I have a lot of problems with the handle unscrewing when I turn it. I wish I had gotten the Dynaking Baracuda.
Sentience
12-30-2005, 07:40 AM
I have to say that I wouldn't trade in my Regal for anything.
LastCastMike
12-30-2005, 04:00 PM
You should check out a Patriot Cam Vise. Very Stury -Will hold anything. Not nearly as expensive as a Dyna-King.
I've been using these vises for 7 or 8 years for full dress salmon and heavy salt-water flies.
flatwingflinger
01-04-2006, 10:25 PM
When I first got the Barracuda(my first rotary), I had trouble adjusting the vise and broke five 2/0 stainless 34007 with no damage to the jaws :eek: . It works even for the new guys. Absolutely rock solid! If it was just me and Rambo :cool: and I had to take a vise into the forest, the Barracuda is going!
tjf02
01-05-2006, 10:24 AM
I am just starting to tie and need to get a vice. I "stole" my friends vice he was not using for freshwater flies, and it does not like even the 2/0 hooks.
Suggestions on vices, or if anyone wants to sell me one of their old/unused ones send me a pm. I will be going to the Marlboro show and looking to possibly pick one up there. Thanks.
Tim
wrx_canoe
01-05-2006, 03:21 PM
I have the Dyna-King Ron Abbey Signature model. Basically a Barracuda arm and jaw with the Sidewinder handle. Beautiful and very functional vice.
My only complaint is that the jaw mechanism of the Dyna-king is so heavy it doesn't rotate very constantly due to the dramatic off-set in weight. In that respect a Renzetti may be better.
kent jones
01-29-2006, 10:02 PM
i use a dyna king and a regal would not trade either one different vise for different flies. i have had both since 1984 no down time for either one
mbrown
01-31-2006, 07:05 PM
I used a regal for years,then was traded a Dyna King pro for some labor.Bought a barracuda a few years ago.love both of them.I find that mostly I use the "pro" model.I can tie rotary (slightly off center axis) AND I like the other angles that you can lock the jaws at.Stoneflies,etc. on curved hooks,stuff that i tie deep into the hook bend.my two cents
surfrat59
02-02-2006, 05:35 AM
For under a hundred bucks, pedestal included, the Griffin 1AR has been fantastic...height, jaw angle, rotation tension,are all easily adjusted. Sturdy and well built, you will not move a hook clamped in one of these ;)
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