Herring fly help

[Fitzy]

Hey,
Im' not sure if anyone else has covered this in the past, but I'm looking for a good way to set teh eyes onto a fly like this. right now, the fly only takes 10-15 minutes to make and I'm hoping to not add too much time. Also, the fly is relatively light and I'm trying to keep it that way. I have them help on right now with zapa gap, but I can tell after a few casts or getting bumped on the rocks at the canal, the eyes will pop off. Do you guys have any suggestions for glue, other than epoxy? I think softex will work on the smaller versions but the bigger flys will need something stronger. If I move the eyes foward then the fly looks goofy, so I think epoxy is out fo the question anyway.

Thanks for the help.

Matt

[tsheehy]

Goop.

-- Tom

[msiler]

Goop Goop Goop

[flies only]

goop i third it. seriously you can smash the eyes together with the stuff. i tye my mushies with the stuff. wet your finger and pat it and you can shape it. i make surf candies with it. doesnt yellow over time liek lots of epoxies.hope this helps capt john ;)

[Fitzy]

Yup, I should have thought of that. I had some goop a ways back, but the tube got a leak and went bad.

Thanks!!!

Matt

[Slamdance]

You could use the large mylar eyes with the tabs on them. No need for any adhesive and much lighter.

[8wt]

If the goop doesn,t work for you try hologram eyes from Wapsi and stick them on with Pliobond. Usually it lasts longer than the fly which eventually gets chewed apart by fish. Sometimes the eye separates from the backing so you save the fly, dry it out and reapply an eye with Pliobond right on top of the backing that is left. I have never had the Pliobond itself fail.

[lemaymiami]

I've tried a variety of cements for gluing eyes on flies. Here's the best I've found as a commercial tyer: Fletching cement. I've found the stuff at Bass Pro, I'm certain it's commonly available at any store that sells archery supplies. It comes in a tube with a small applicator nozzle that's perfect for placing a dot of glue to hold any size eye in place. The stuff's strong enough that when you lose a holagram eye on a fly the base of it is still glued to the fly.... Here's a trick that I use when doing a dozen or two (or hundreds...). I glue on one eye then clamp the fly with either a clothes pin or the smallest size Irwin Speed Clamp until it sets up. When I've done 10 or 20 I then repeat the process with the other side. Each side only takes a moment, freeing up my hands to tie others while the eyes set up. Good Luck.

[BuzFly]

Plastic Dip

[FishHawk]

Another vote for Fletching cement. It works . FishHawk

[uncle4]

I second fletching cement. Go with Goat Tuff or (even
better) AAE fast set.

You might also consider a hot-glue gun. I use one for big eyes on
squid patterns. Fast, effective and no fumes.

Uncle 4

[jmccall]

I second fletching cement. Go with Goat Tuff or (even
better) AAE fast set.

You might also consider a hot-glue gun. I use one for big eyes on
squid patterns. Fast, effective and no fumes.

Uncle 4 This might be a dumb question, but isn't fletching cement just super glue(ie Zap A Gap)

[BuzFly]

Did You Try Tab Eyes ??????

[lemaymiami]

It's some kind of polyurethane based product, I think. Definitely not super glue.

[plugman]

Tab eyes, or jungle cock. I know that on the surfacce jc is expensive, However, you can get literally 200 to 300 flies out of a good neck. Plus the flies look great!