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DaleH
05-17-2006, 01:59 PM
Though some guys haven't had any issues with the E10 ethanol fuel ... the chance for problems is real. This article by Mercury is worth reading and probably the best summary I've yet seen (includes a picture of an actual E10 phase separation) on precautions for boats using E10 fuel ... like leaving the tank empty over the winter storage period, otherwise leaving it full.

FYI, ethanol formulated fuels of greater than the 10% mix are currently reported to be causing problems to OBs in FL, to the point that one new OB has had 7 fuel pumps replaced :eek: ! It now appears that Yamaha and Bombardier (and Mercury too via this notice) will refuse to honor any OB warranty should they find a fuel pump or other part was damaged by fuel of > 10% ethanol mix.

Mercury Marine’s View of Ethanol F.A.Q.:
Mercury Marine remains very active in developing a thorough understanding of important issues and environments in which our products must operate. Mercury's engineers work constantly to expand our understanding of fuel technologies and their interactions with all Mercury products to ensure they perform properly and reliably. Mercury personnel work in concert with industry groups, such as the National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), to offer input into the overall processes by which many decisions are made regarding fuel regulations and energy policies so future problems are minimized and future developments are beneficial to those who utilize our products.

Included below is a list of questions and answers that address typical concerns of consumers.

Please feel free to contact any Mercury Marine field representative with questions, or contact us at public.relations@mercmarine.com. Mercury will do its best to help find answers, whether you're seeking general information or wishing to discuss legal proposals, or if you're seeking information regarding ethanol-tolerant materials.

-What are ethanol and ethanol-blended fuels?
-How is ethanol made?
-What are the characteristics of ethanol?
-What is MTBE and why is it being replaced?
-Does ethanol affect horsepower or fuel-efficiency?
-Are Mercury engines compatible with ethanol fuels?
-Will the use of fuels containing ethanol void my engine warranty?
-What about the fuel-system components on the boat?
-Can ethanol-blended fuels affect the performance of two-stroke engines?
-How does ethanol affect my fiberglass fuel tank?
-Are older fuel lines prone to failure? What about gaskets?
-Ethanol is replacing MTBE in my region? What should I do?
-Should I add an additional fine-micron filter to the system to prevent debris from entering the engine?
-How can a marina prepare for the change from MTBE to ethanol as the fuel oxygenate?
-What is phase separation, and how do I deal with it?
-Is an additive available that can prevent phase separation?
-Are there any additives that can allow the phase-separated mixture to remix when added to the fuel tank?
-Is there a simple solution to water condensation in the tank as a result of ethanol?
-What should be done when storing boats with ethanol-blended fuels for extended periods?

What are ethanol and ethanol-blended fuels?
Ethanol for fuel is highly refined beverage (grain) alcohol, approximately 200 proof, that can be produced from natural products such as corn, sugar cane and wheat. New technology will allow ethanol to be made from “cellulosic” feedstocks including corn stalks, grain straw, paper, pulp, wood chips, municipal waste, switchgrass and other sources. Ethanol used for fuel has been “denatured,” or rendered unsafe to drink by the addition of a hydrocarbon (usually gasoline). The ethanol-blended fuel E-10 refers to fuel that contains 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gasoline. Similarly, E-85 refers to fuel that contains 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. E-85 is intended only for engines specially designed to accept high-ethanol content fuel blends, such as the Flexible Fuel Vehicles (FFV) made by some car companies.

How is ethanol made?
In the U.S., ethanol is typically produced by removing the starch or sugar portion of corn and fermenting it. The fermented starch is then distilled into alcohol. Excess water is removed, resulting in very pure – 200 proof – ethyl alcohol (ethanol).

In some parts of the world, ethanol is made from a variety of raw materials. For example, sugar cane is used to produce ethanol in Brazil, while sugar beets and wheat straw are commonly used in Europe.

What are the characteristics of ethanol?
Ethanol is an oxygenated hydrocarbon compound that has a high octane rating and therefore is useful in increasing the octane level of unleaded gasoline. The EPA, the agency responsible for setting some of the requirements for all gasoline used in the U.S., has allowed the use of ethanol in gasoline at levels up to 10 percent as an octane enhancer and to provide beneficial clean-burning combustion characteristics that help improve some emissions.

Ethanol is hygroscopic (it has an attraction for water) and will more readily mix with water than with gasoline. It has different solvency behaviors than does gasoline, which allows it to loosen rust and debris that might lay undisturbed in fuel systems. And it can more readily remove plasticizers and resins from certain plastic materials that might not be affected by gasoline alone. Loose debris will plug filters and can interfere with engine operation. Additionally, ethanol is corrosive to some metals, especially in combination with water. Although gasoline does not conduct electricity well, ethanol has an appreciable capability to conduct electricity and therefore can promote galvanic corrosion.

What is MTBE and why is it being replaced?
MTBE is the chemical shorthand description for methyl tertiary-butyl ether. MTBE is another oxygenated hydrocarbon compound that has a high octane rating. It was initially a preferred compound widely used for octane enhancement as a replacement for leaded compounds in gasoline. When the EPA developed regulations requiring oxygenated gasoline to help reduce smog in several areas of the country, MTBE was the most commonly used compound to supply the additional oxygen, while ethanol was chosen for this purpose in the Midwest region of the country. Recently, most states have banned the use of MTBE because of its tendency to work its way into ground water systems, usually from leaks and spills, as an undesirable contaminant. Ethanol is being used as a replacement.

Does ethanol affect horsepower or fuel-efficiency?
Ethanol has a heating value of 76,000 BTU per gallon, which is approximately 30 percent less than gasoline's heating value (which is approximately 109,000 to 119,000 BTU/gal). The result is E-10 gasoline should yield slightly lower mileage – a decrease of approximately 3 percent. Fuels containing higher levels of ethanol will have a corresponding reduction in mileage. For example, E85 fuels produce mileage approximately 30 percent less than gasoline.

The octane rating of pure ethanol (200 proof) is about 100 and is therefore useful in elevating the octane value of gasoline. In E-10 blends the presence of ethanol provides about 2.5 to 3 percent of the overall octane rating. The effect on engine horsepower is determined by the octane result of the blended fuel. Care should be taken to select fuels having the octane rating recommended for the engine as indicated in the owner's manual for proper operation.

Are Mercury engines compatible with ethanol fuels?
The fuel-system components of Mercury engines will withstand up to 10 percent alcohol content in gasoline – the maximum level currently allowed by the EPA in the U.S. There are some efforts to establish E-20 (20 percent ethanol mixed with 80 gasoline) for use in some areas, but that will require agreement from EPA to grant a waiver. Part of the EPA waiver process will require verification from studies that demonstrate that higher levels of ethanol do not create problems with fuel-system materials or operation of hardware. E-20 has not been extensively studied by Mercury and is not acceptable for use in Mercury products. E-85 fuels must not be used in any Mercury engines and could seriously damage current Mercury products. It is not legal in the U.S. to market any ethanol fuel as gasoline if it contains more than 10 percent ethanol.

Will the use of fuels containing ethanol void my engine warranty?
Fuels containing up to 10 percent ethanol are considered acceptable for use in Mercury engines. Fuels containing higher levels of ethanol are not considered acceptable for use, and the use of fuels containing ethanol higher than 10 percent can void the warranty.

What about the fuel-system components on the boat?
It is important to follow boat manufacturers' recommendations when selecting appropriate fuels. Use of an inappropriate fuel can result in damage to the engine and boat components that may require repair or replacement. Fuels with ethanol can attack some fuel-system components, such as tanks and lines, if they are not made from acceptable ethanol-compatible materials. This can lead to operational problems or safety issues such as clogged filters, leaks or engine damage.

Can ethanol-blended fuels affect the performance of two-stroke engines?
Two-stroke outboards should experience little or no decrease in performance due to gasoline fuels containing up to 10-percent ethanol when operated according to Mercury's standard recommendations. When gasoline with ethanol is used for the first time after a fuel changeover from MTBE, the tank must be completely dry prior to introduction of gasoline with ethanol. Otherwise, phase separation could occur that could cause filter plugging or damage to the engine. If an engine is a 1990 or older model frequent inspections of all fuel-system components are advised to identify any signs of leakage, softening, hardening, swelling or corrosion. If any sign of leakage or deterioration is observed, replacement of the affected components is required before further operation.

How does ethanol affect my fiberglass fuel tank?
Fiberglass tanks manufactured prior to 1991 may not be compatible with gasoline containing ethanol. It has been reported that, in the presence of ethanol, some resins may be drawn out of fiberglass and carried into the engine where severe damage could occur. If an older fiberglass tank is used, check with the manufacturer to determine if gasoline with ethanol can be safely used.

Are older fuel lines prone to failure? What about gaskets?
During the 1980s, many rubber components for use in fuel systems were developed to withstand exposure to fuels containing ethanol. If rubber components in a fuel system are suspected to be of this vintage or older it may be advisable to replace them with newer ethanol-safe components before using fuels containing ethanol. Check with the manufacturer for advice or frequently inspect these fuel-system components for signs of swelling or deterioration and replace if problems are noted.

Ethanol is replacing MTBE in my region? What should I do?
Before gasoline with ethanol is introduced to your fuel tank, ask your boat manufacturer if any special precautions should be considered with the use of fuel containing ethanol. Check for the presence of water in the fuel tank. If any is found, remove all water and dry the tank completely. As a precaution, it is advisable to carry a few extra filters in case filter plugging becomes a problem during boating.

Should I add an additional fine-micron filter to the system to prevent debris from entering the engine?
The addition of another filter to the system will create another possible flow restriction that can starve the engine of fuel. Mercury already provides the appropriate level of filtration to protect the engine from debris.

How can a marina prepare for the change from MTBE to ethanol as the fuel oxygenate?
Check with the manufacturer to make certain the tank and lines won't experience problems with ethanol. Inspect the tank for water and, if present, pump out all water and thoroughly clean the tank. Install ethanol-compatible filters. The tank should be less than 20 percent full before adding the first load of fuel with ethanol.

What is “phase separation”, and how do I deal with it?
If significant amounts of water are present in a fuel tank with gasoline that contains ethanol, the water will be drawn into the fuel until the saturation point is reached for the three-component mixture of water + gasoline + ethanol. Beyond this level of water, phase separation could cause most of the ethanol and water to separate from the bulk fuel and drop to the bottom of the tank, leaving gasoline with a significantly reduced level of ethanol in the upper phase (see Figure 1 below). If the lower phase of water and ethanol is large enough to reach the fuel inlet, it could be pumped directly to the engine and cause significant problems. Even if the ethanol water phase at the bottom of the tank is not drawn into the fuel inlet, the reduced ethanol level of the fuel reduces the octane rating by as much as 3 octane numbers, which could result in engine problems.

The level at which phase separation can occur is determined by a number of variables, including the amount of ethanol, the composition of the fuel, the temperature of the environment and the presence of contaminants. It is very important (A) that the system is inspected for significant quantities of water in the tank before using gasoline with ethanol and (B) to limit exposure of the fuel tank to excess water. If phase separation has occurred, it is necessary to completely remove all free water from the system and replace the fuel before continuing operation. Otherwise, engine problems could occur.

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Figure 1: Sample of fuel from fuel tank in which phase separation has occurred. The upper phase is gasoline with a reduced level of ethanol. The lower level is a mixture of ethanol and water.

Is an additive available that can prevent phase separation?
There is no practical additive that can prevent phase separation from occurring. The only practical solution is to keep water from accumulating in the tank in the first place.

Are there any additives that can allow the phase-separated mixture to remix when added to the fuel tank?
No, the only way to avoid further problems is to remove the water, dispose of the depleted fuel, clean the tank and start with a fresh, dry load of fuel.

Is there a simple solution to water condensation in the tank as a result of ethanol?
It is best to maintain a full tank of fuel when the engine is not in use. This will reduce the void space above the fuel and will reduce the flow of air in and out of the tank with changes in temperature. This will reduce condensation on the internal walls of the tank and will limit exposure of the ethanol in the fuel to humidity and condensation.

What should be done when storing boats with ethanol-blended fuels for extended periods?
When preparing to store a boat for extended periods of two months or more, it is best to completely remove all fuel from the tank. If it is difficult or not possible to remove the fuel, maintaining a full tank of fuel with a fuel stabilizer added to provide fuel stability and corrosion protection is recommended. A partially full tank is not recommended because the void space above the fuel allows air movement that can bring in water through condensation as the temperature cycles up and down. This condensation potentially becomes a problem. Mercury Marine Fuel System Treatment & Stabilizer can help maintain fuel systems in storage. It contains oxidation inhibitors to reduce oxidation and gum formation, metal chelating agents to protect metal components from corrosion, water absorbing agents to reduce the presence of free water, and dispersants to help suspend and disperse debris. It is best used by adding to the tank at the recommended dosage, running the engine for 10 minutes to allow the system to be cleaned, shutting off the fuel valve to interrupt the fuel supply and allow the engine to run until it stops, topping off the tank until it's full, and capping any openings to reduce the amount of exchange with the air that might bring in condensation.

© 2004 Mercury Marine

SamRiley
05-17-2006, 02:44 PM
Thanks Dale. This is clear enough that eve I can figure out what to do. The keeping the tank full in season is a new one though. I had heard that the ethanol looses it's umph and should not sit around for over a month or so. With a 60 gallon tank, I wonder about the mixing of old E10 with new E10 and if I will eventually end up with 60 gallons of bad gas if I don't burn through enough of it with each trip.

Smcdermott
05-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Dale,

Thanks for posting this. The point about keeping a full tank during the season is contrary to what I have read from other sources but seems to make a lot of sense. I wonder if there are any one way valves on the market that could provide additional protection from water intrusion? I believe mine can be shut. Is there any danger in closing it when the boat is not in use or being fueled? How do auto systems work as my understanding is they are a closed system? It looks like we better start saving receipts in case we run into a problem with something greater than E-10. You may have a fighting chance if you can show that you only used one station.

Thanks again,

Sean

SamRiley
05-17-2006, 03:02 PM
Sean,
I was wondering the same thing about a shut-off valve but the gas is going to expand and contract anyway. By closing it off you would be building up either suction or pressure which I bet the system was not designed for. But I could be dead wrong too.....

PAX
05-17-2006, 08:53 PM
Great post! Just added to my already high level of anxiety though. I realized a few weeks ago that the last time I refulled (last october) was in Montayk, NY where they already had E10. So I had about a half tank of E10 in my boat for the all winter. I could be one posting soon about issues relating to doing this. :mad:

It was professionally winterized but that probably does not help with condensation. First trip is planned for May 27th. I will soon find out.

chainsaw42
05-17-2006, 10:06 PM
let's hope that this goes down as another y2k thing--a lot of fuss with no real issues in reality. unfortunately it does sound like there are facts that would suggest otherwise, at least for some unfortunate folks.

FireFly
05-18-2006, 10:19 AM
Dale,

For the record I took a couple of the 23 gallons I pulled from my tank (the amber colored stuff that looked good) and put it in my riding mower.

It did not like the crap one bit! She ran but sounded like she was back-firing the entire time.

I think the E10 sat in my tank for several months, pulled in water from the moist Flordia air and additional water got in from the fill cap. The end product was super saturated E10 which had already lost its octane.

I really don't get the E10 benefit stance. If you lose 3% of your MPG rating then you'll be filling up more often and burning more gas. WTF? :confused:

chainsaw42
05-18-2006, 12:41 PM
maybe i'm too quick to think 'conspiracy theory' when it comes to this stuff, but i have to believe that some people are getting very, very rich off of the addition of ethanol to fuel and those people are well connected to those who voted the legislation into law. i haven't read too much about how exactly all of this snuck under the radar w/out a lot of press coverage, but it smells like a typical back room dirty deal. i have heard some rumblings about it benefitting the farmers, and this seems like an obvious connection since they grow the corn to make the stuff, so it would be interesting to see if the big proponents were from Iowa, Nebraska, etc. i've also heard that they use petroleum fuels during the fermenting/distilling process and that it takes more than 1 gallon of petroleum fuel to render 1 gallon of ethanol. i don't know if that's true, and it sounds ridiculous to me, but it surprises me that we don't hear more of the politicians talking about how 10% of the fuel you burn in your car is from a renewable resource that is not only not from the middle east, but in fact right from the heartland of America. that sounds like something politicians would love to jump on and take credit for, yet they aren't (at least not to any large degree). it makes me think that the rumor of adding ethanol to gasoline DOES mean we're burning MORE petroleum, not less, due to the distilling process. i agree, there doesn't seem to be an upside to this ethanol thing, although i am admittedly ignorant of most of the story. they do say it is 'cleaner burning', but i haven't seen any statistics on that, and you know they probably don't factor in that you're burning 3% more of the stuff per mile. ok, enough rambling.

i ran my lawn mower w/the new gas for the first time yesterday and it ran like crap. popping, sounding like it was laboring, running out of gas. the gas was about 10 days old, don't know what effect that had on it.

JimC
05-18-2006, 12:42 PM
Joe,
I hear you with the E-10 but the widespread nature or the MTBE contamination of our groundwater has gone under the radar for too long. Follow this link for a good summary of the problem in Southern NH. (http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2004/3119/) While there aren't a lot of wells over the action limits for drinking water, the % of wells with detectable levels is pretty amazing given the limited time MTBE has been used. Because of MTBEs persistance in soils and groundwater and the the difficulty of remedial actions, this potential public health risk was only going to get worse at a rate that is difficult to predict, likely impacting water supplies on a community or regional basis. I don't usually rise to "environmotionalist" bait but I think the regulators did the right thing getting ahead of the MTBE situation before it was too late.

Maybe there will be better solutions in the future but for now, the agriculture industry will assure we're dealing with Ethanol.

gf2020
05-18-2006, 01:07 PM
I really don't get the E10 benefit stance. If you lose 3% of your MPG rating then you'll be filling up more often and burning more gas. WTF? :confused:



That was my initial impression too, but curiously, fuel economy in my 5.6 liter V8 Nissan Titan is up almost 10% over the past few weeks since the switch to E10. 16.4 MPG on my last tank, up from an average of ~15 MPG over the past several months.

A buddy of mine who drives a 4.6 liter V8 Ford F-150 reports a similar recent increase in fuel economy. I haven't run the numbers on my wife's 4.6 liter V8 Ford Explorer, I'll have to start tracking that this weekend.

Telliedog
05-18-2006, 01:42 PM
I get the E-10 water issue but I have not seen any good explanation (from a reliable source) of the loss of octane over time and what that really means. I assume Mercury wouldnt recommend keeping a full tank if it would lose significant octane in 30 days.

Any more info on that aspect?

Mooncusser
05-18-2006, 01:48 PM
My fuel economy in my GMC 1500 5.3 has gone down since the switch (17.8 to 16.0). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the corn states all voted Red in the last election. The worse part is that even the EPA has stated that the need for any octane boosters in gasoline has been eliminated by today's engine technology.

FireFly
05-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Jim,

Good point regarding the environment.

So here is a question for everyone:

If we are currently importing crude oil for ~$70 per barrel and the oil then needs to be refined and distributed to the gas stations then why don't we just import gas from Brazil or Venezuela (forget which one) where you can get gas for 11 cents per gallon. Fill up a couple of tankers and you'd make some serious profit. :-%

And fyi- that's exactly what my mower did last night!! snap, crackle, pop, pop...

chainsaw42
05-19-2006, 12:14 PM
my mileage is definitely down, too early to say how much (the mpg's vary for a couple weeks before the average settles out).