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docofthebay
05-27-2006, 09:39 AM
Thoughts on favorite monomy sandelle pattern
thanks

albacized
05-27-2006, 08:34 PM
Perhaps Page Rogers' sand eel pattern with the silver mylar tubing body and craft fur tail.

Markymark
05-27-2006, 08:36 PM
1. Popovic's- Surf Candy- olive
2. RM Murphy's - Pamet Special
3. Clousers- olive/white, chartruese/white, chartruese/yellow, tan/white.
That' pretty much all I use,and a few poppers,Gartside's gurglers

docofthebay
05-28-2006, 03:54 PM
What size hooks ?

lhonda
05-28-2006, 05:09 PM
I'm thinking Birkenstocks...:)

Robstar55
05-28-2006, 11:58 PM
nahhhhh rainbows are the way to go here, way more comfortable haha

Markymark
05-29-2006, 01:41 PM
Size 1, 1/0, 2's

dudley
05-31-2006, 05:36 PM
juro's deep eel
... just a long super hair clouser

sandy
06-03-2006, 12:35 AM
juro's deep eel
... just a long super hair clouser

Ditto on that

BobG
06-03-2006, 10:17 AM
juro's deep eel
... just a long super hair clouser

Does anyone have a picture or a recipe for this fly?

zimmjas
06-03-2006, 11:12 AM
Does anyone have a picture or a recipe for this fly?

As far as I know, it's just green/tan super hair over white super hair with with dumbell eyes.

JimW
06-03-2006, 12:41 PM
Bob,
Check you PM box, sent you a link.

There are a lot of good flies that will work for you on the flats. I don't claim to be very good at it but putting the fly in the right place at the right time and giving it the correct action is as important as the tie. That said, it's hard to beat a deep eel.
Good luck.

juro
06-04-2006, 06:47 AM
Jim's got it right...

when taking clients out on the flats I always tell them the priorities are:

1) the mood of the fish
2) the presentation
3) then lastly the fly

- but all are critical to making the connection ;)

Why?

When the fish are in the mood they will take your 6 year old cousin's first attempt at fly tying greedily as long as they can see it and the hook is big enough to stick the lip.

When they are not quite blitzing but can still be had, placing the fly in the proper location and giving it the right movement will seal the deal - but the window can be pretty small in July. Within this window several flies in your box would do the deed (depending on your box! --123-3 ) but the presentation was key.

Lastly, when you get that submarine fish to inch along with it's nostrils on your fly until you run out of leader to strip and it sees your boot laces and swims off, perhaps another fly would have been the right call.

You can do something about all of these factors. The first is the hardest, it requires knowledge, guile, prediction, experience. Groups of fish within the same square mile are in different moods quite often in complex structure.

The second is pure skill - seeing, leading, casting, stealth, strip, setting and of course fighting.

The third is strangely where everyone focuses all their attention yet in my way of thinking is the least important of the three!

Albeit they all matter.

In an experimental year I fished virtually an entire season with one fly to refine my abilities in #2 and #1. I caught more fish than ever but that was an exception I switch it up from crabs to worms to flounder to shrimp etc but the staple is the sand eel. Funny how lots of people who have adopted the deep eel say that same thing back to me "it's the only fly I really need".

The name "deep eel" is a play on Bob Clouser's "deep minnow" which people just seem to call "clouser". It is tied differently than a deep minnow, with zero wraps behind the eyes which is my own technique. It's explained on the flyfishing forum so I won't post a weak text description here.

Anyway, think about my three rules of the flats when you go out and I think your game will improve dramatically.

BobG
06-04-2006, 07:44 AM
Thank you Juro. Very informative post! :brow