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noendjohnny
05-16-2000, 12:00 AM
In learning and trying to tie salt flies, I've consistently had problems making that nice bullet shaped head. Mostly I tied variations of streamers (Lefty's D.,etc.), but I find that I've been unable to adequately secure the wing/collar material without making a longish/thin head. I've tried using less material, securing it in parts, adding cement to the wraps, but I, for some reason, cannot make that compact bullet. I use primarily monocord and kevlar. Any suggestions, tips or hints will be greatly appreciated.

fish247
05-16-2000, 09:42 PM
try using 6/0 thread. its trickier cause it breaks easier, but its thinner and makes a better looking head, more chances to cover [or recover from] your mistakes. i also use clear nail polish for a head cement. 3-5 coats will give an epoxy-like finish and build up the diameter.

JimW
05-17-2000, 10:59 PM
<FONT color=black face=Verdana,Geneva size=2>Try flat waxed thread.&nbsp; I find it lays down better.</FONT>
<P><FONT color=green face=Garamond size=5><EM>Jim Whalen</EM></FONT></P>

noendjohnny
05-17-2000, 11:38 PM
Thanks to the both of you for the advice. I'll let you know how it turns out.

John McCann

Bumble7070
05-19-2000, 12:19 AM
I think that it may be helpful to clip the taabs of the butt ends of the bucktail around the head so that it tapers down.

With respect to head help, being your bro, I know that you may need to call New Era and ask for the "custom"
department.

FlyByNight
05-22-2000, 04:11 PM
I found a trick that works well on these bulkier flies. Tie in the bucktail, leaving long butts sections over the eye. Secure it as best you can. Next take 1/4 of the butt, stand straight up, and secure with thread. Do this in sections with the remaining butt ends. Once you've gotten to the head you should have all the butt ends standing straight up. Now cut them off, curved scissors seem to work best here, and bind the whole mess down. This was published in one of the tying mags and I've found it to work well. Good tying.