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Lov2Fish
10-03-2006, 05:51 PM
Took off from work! --127-3- --127-3- Wasn't sure how day would be, due to alot of dismal reports I've been getting! Well fished the NY Bight ( Just east of New Jersey ) Hey can't give my spots away. Right away found Large stripers and blues, with birds working in deep water. Had to use a 5 ounce Bingle tube jig to get under blues. That non-stop action lasted for 3 hours! Then it all died down. Tried Nortons Point, Breezy point, Great Kills all very slow, 1 black sea bass 1 sea robin, and few cocktail blues, under the TONS of bait -- big and small bunker along Staten Island starting from Great KIlls to about 2 miles north along beach, lots of birds and bait but not much fish. Attached is picture of one of the larger stripers jigged up! Was too fast and furious to take alot of pics! Ohh yes all fish were released! And only tagged 1 striper today.

EAN
10-04-2006, 12:02 PM
nice to see someone catching. Thanks for the report

Wild Bill
10-04-2006, 04:57 PM
Nice report and pretty bass. Looks as the fish are finding plenty to eat.

BTW what it a Bingle tube--trolled or cast?

Lov2Fish
10-04-2006, 06:49 PM
Don Bingle was a lure maker from NY. I believe Brooklyn. He was one of the first to use surgical tubing on a leadhead. Hence the baittail. This held up more tha bucktail. I almost always jig, NEVER troll. I know trolling can be produtive, but its like the boat is catching the fish. You can see the jig next to the fish, this one has a clear and blue tube. I tried google for a seach on Don Bingle lure and came up with a few hits. If any of you "old timers" can add info to Don Bingle please do so.


This was copied from striper surf I take no credit for this just passing info along! Also found picture of them on this web site! Copied picture NOT my picture!

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After Triet reminded about the bait tail lures we use, he sent me a past post on these lures, knowing that this is my favorite lure around here. For us guys from Sheepshead Bay, who commercially fished for bass, and weakfish, the Bait Tail, next to the diamond jig, is probably the best all around lure for the bight. And unlike the diamond jig, the bait tail will catch fish at night.

For the last 20-25 years or so, the most popular makers of these lures were Don Bingle, and Gary Goldberg & Bob Sparta, of S&G lures. Their heads by far fished the best due to their well balanced design, and the way in which the rubber was cut. I have used Sekora baitails, and must say, that their rubber and the way it is cut, is not as good as Bingles or S&G. Period.

Their are some variations of the heads, but the basic design is still the same, with either a Mustad 34184/5 or 91750/ST hook inserted in the leadhead weighted from less then a half ounce upto 3 ounces. The tails were specially cut with either a long clothing shears, or a special tool that is made by craftsman and sold at Sears. (Blades must be extra sharp when cutting the rubber)..two things are critical with the making of the bait tail...one is the balance of the lure, and the second which is as, or more important, is the correct cutting of the tubing. Tubing has to be used that comes from straight rolls, not the curved stuffed that you seem packed...a tube must be cut that is straight, with as little as possible curling at the ends, and, where the end of the tube runs up to the base near the bottom of the hook...tubing comes in different sizes ranging from 3/16, 5/16, 3/8 and 1/2, with the smaller sizes the most popular. The best color by far was what we called devold' which was slightly darker then the natural color we see...the second best was a shade of green that worked incredible in the fall, especially when fishing in the river for bass (Battery and East River). Black, white, wines , dark red and purple also work but natural seems to outfish them all. Heads do not have to be painted, but can be, with either a white or yellow base, with black eyes with a red smile.


The bait tail is to be worked by casting it out and very slowly retrieving it along the bottom...it also can be fished straight up and down in a jigging motion, with a slow lift and drop. The bait tail works incredibly well for king mackeral, with a light trace of light coffee colored wire in sizes 2 through 4 when fishing it on top. Use heavier wire from #5-8 when bluefish are scattered around...Down in the Florida Keys, bait tails, work incredibly well fishing off the bridges for tarpon and snook. They can be cranked at mid level or on top, and work very well at night for all species. You can even cast a light bait tail out and skip it along the top for false albacore.

Thanks to Capt. Mike, who made up a spread of the different heads we make and use. Anyone who comes over my house can see about 20 different heads in different weights and tails for use during the year....here are just a few........