Clouser Flatwing

[jmccall]

I am thinking about trying to tie clouser flatwings. Does anyone have an opinion on the need to tie the hackle in upside down?


Thanks
John

[wendell]

Any thing's possible but the two concepts don't really jive with me. A little buck tail jig isn't really going to benifit from flatwing saddles. Similarly a nine three isn't going to benifit from a jig head. Dissimilar goals.

[PEC54]

I am thinking about trying to tie clouser flatwings. Does anyone have an opinion on the need to tie the hackle in upside down?


Thanks
John

I tied some up years ago ,and they worked quite well, there are several well known patterns ,skoks burying sandeel I believe is one, also Allan Caolo has several featured in sight fishing for striped bass, give them try find out if you like them yourself.:brow

[BigBoatDog]

Also known as a half and half. They work great and are a proven fly.Unless the fly was originally tied as a flatwing I don't think horizontal or vertical hackle makes all that much difference. The upsidedown hackle, dull side up, is supposed to act as a stabilizer(?). Flatwing flies do so seem to move a bit more in the water.

[Saltydog]

Heres one I did a good number of years back. the old half/half.
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN--127-3-

[jazzman]

Clousers tied with flatwing tails/flatwing styled half and halfs work very well. there was a pattern called the Cape Cod Sand Eel, I believe, that used olive grizzly flatwing tail with an olive over white clouser head that was popular, as I recall, and caught me some fish a number of years ago. As far as assembling the tail, since the hook rides point up, I'd tie the tail saddles in curving up when the hook is in the upright (not-inverted) position. Better yet, if you use bucktail and support feather, a la KA, tie the whole thing upside down when the hook is upright in the vise -- saddles curving up, under white neck hackle curving down, under white bucktail support.