View Full Version : Tuffleye alternative to epoxy...

02-28-2008, 01:02 PM
'Trying out the "Tuffleye Kit" I got from Scott at the Bear's Den...
'Still dealing with the post cure tacky phenomenon...
An alcohol buff followed by Hard-As-Nails seems to make it right...
Ms Epoxie and I are still good friends but we're not "exclusive" any more...

02-28-2008, 04:58 PM
Nice looking flys, Penquin.

02-28-2008, 07:39 PM
I too just began playing w/ this. The alcohol buff alone has been sufficient for me so far. Mostly large flies. I am pretty certain I like it. I'll certainly know by end of season.

Ditto on what Bill says - NICE flies!

02-29-2008, 02:50 PM
Bear in mind that blue light can be an eye hazard- you can find info on the web about it. Probably not a huge issue for anybody that isn't tying commercially, but worth noting in any event.

Fin Addiction
03-01-2008, 11:41 AM
nice flies....but what is the advantage over epoxy????

03-01-2008, 12:36 PM
Perhaps the biggest advantage for me so far is I ties flies as I can - one here, one there. I can just put the acrylic on the fly, hit it with a light for a few seconds and I'm done. No wheel, no watching my cats or looking for drips or runs. Is this a big advantage - no. Convenience for me - definitely.

It is also suppose to be non-yellowing.

03-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Acrylic was odor free, easy, and very user friendly vc epoxy vs goop vs whatever...;)

03-03-2008, 07:43 PM
I like that one; what type & size hook?

Bob Parsons
03-03-2008, 07:47 PM
$80 plus bucks for a kit!!! I can put up with a lot of epoxy wastage for that price. Just think, you made 10 flies to start off the day and a bluefish bits a couple off. That's pretty expensive per fly as a start up coast.

Oh Wait a minute, I'll whip out my handy dandy $74 dollar lamp and make a few replacements.

03-03-2008, 10:43 PM
a lot less $$ than a few cuban cigars and a single malt to go!? :-%

and...a lot more theraputic and long lasting than a session with my VA shrink... ;)

It's all relative...:rolleyes:

(Owner Rig'N Hook 5/0 #5137-151)

03-04-2008, 10:02 AM
I plan on trying it out, but I am with Bob on this because of the expense. I suppose I can suppliment my epoxy use with it and wonder how many "standard" type flies, that is... just head application, can it make with one kit. Does the light come with the kit? Might be a good idea for making a number of flies , say the night before, for a trip off shore when your supply does not have what you might need.

Bob Parsons
03-04-2008, 11:03 AM
There are two starter kits both with the light. The second kit which is only slightly more expensive comes with twice the amount of compounds to work with. The light is what makes the start up price expensive. The light being an led will last as much as 100000 hrs.

Certainly for someone that ties commercially it would be a viable option.

03-04-2008, 01:39 PM
Thanks Bob for that info... I suppose we could use the light for that after fishing middle age Disco I am planning in Chatham;)

03-06-2008, 04:03 PM

03-07-2008, 08:04 AM

Those flies suck!

Please tie up a few more for me to confiscate when I see you next weekend!

It's funny that people want to bitch & moan about the cost of tying materials.... and yet still use $600 fly rods, $400 reels.....(#$119)

03-07-2008, 09:04 AM
Jeff, Hope all is well...I agree those flies do!... Anyway, I just ordered the kit from Bear's Den for $90...the larger kit with the larger applicator...The refils seem reasdonable after the initial investment in the light. Apparently you also need to use eye protectors when using the light. But I will experiment with the stuff. I need to tie so many flies this March for the season that this might cut back working time. I really don't care about the lack of yellowing on flies so the tying time might be worth it. I suspect durability between epoxy and this stuff is negligable.

Jim Miller
03-07-2008, 09:54 AM
Hey Pete
Looks like you are really getting the hang of this. Flies look super!
So when are you hosting the Seminar? At the Squire w/ food & drink? :brow

03-07-2008, 11:22 AM
Jim, you need to be extremely careful when inviting Pete.... because this is what you might encounter at the Bar.......:-%

Bob Parsons
03-07-2008, 11:30 AM
It's funny that people want to bitch & moan about the cost of tying materials.... and yet still use $600 fly rods, $400 reels.....(#$119) If I added all my rods and reels. salt/fresh/fly... I might reach that amount.

Fly Deacon
03-07-2008, 03:28 PM
I like the style you used to tie that sand eel in the very first picture. How does that fly ride when stripping it through the water?

03-07-2008, 08:04 PM
I tye a more common Clouser style sand lance when the "diving for the bottom" insinuation is desired...works just fine...
But, there are times when clouds of sand eels darken the shallow water...
This hook-up variation mimicks the sand lance in the cruising mode...
'schooling somewhere mid-level in the water column in large numbers as frequently seen on the Brewster Phlatz...
It rides and looks just as intended...
The blended DNA material has great motion and presents a very subtle color.
I'll typically tye slightly longer versions to start with but I carry scissors to customise a shorter-on-demand offering if necessary to provoke a mugging.
When I tye something out-of-the-box, I will R&D it in a large testing tank.
The 300 gallon "drowning pool" has good flow or slack tide, depending on the pump switch position, and allows me a great view to evaluate the prototype.
This Inuendo Flye works for me!
...and here's another mid-season mid-column mature lance variation...