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Old 12-28-2003, 04:40 PM
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Question Galveston Area Flats

Hello,

I am originally from Minnesota and have been living in Texas for over a year. I have been down to the coast on many occasions but have yet to catch a single fish. I understand that salt water can be more difficult than freshwater, but I was wondering if anyone could help me out some. I am not looking for anyone's favorite spot, just someplace to begin and actually catch (and release) fish.

I have been on the north side of Texas City Dike, Christmas Bay, S. Christmas Bay, and off Sportsman's Rd on SW Galveston island on the bay side.

I run 7 wt WF saltwater floating line, and have been wading in 1-3ft waters.

I typically throw out clausers, spoons, crazy charlies, and bendbacks, all in various bright colors and mixtures (white, red, chartreuse, silver, pink, etc).

I will be back in Texas in a couple days (ice fishing in MN this week) and am looking forward to getting back in the water again on the coast.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I think I have worse luck than most (and ignorance doesn't help, but I'm working on that). Thanks in advance.

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Old 12-30-2003, 11:28 AM
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I don't fish the Galveston area but know a little about it,.....friends of mine frequently fish the area and have stated the area can be pretty productive this time of year but one must have a boat to be able to get to the more remote spots.

Galveston/Trinity Bays have recovered remarkably, thanks to Coastal Conservation Association and other groups that successfully restructured the fishery..........no more gillnets and strict gamefish status for redfish,(which means ya can't sell 'em). Join CCA and get active, lots of info to assist one in the chase for gamefish on the Texas coast.

You need a boat. Get on over to the Astrodome to the Houston boat show which is next week, click this, www.houstonboatshows.com , the dealers will actually deal with you on price (this is their doldrum time of the year when they are not selling many boats and they need to dump inventory for the tax year.). Also, loan companies will give ya a good rate. Don't be affraid to spend a lot of money on a boat, the rednecks down in your area are more likely to accept the Yankee invader if he has a new boat with a few empty beer cans rattling around the deck, specially if boat is pulled by a pick-up with a gunrack in the back window. ( gun not mandatory, just make em think you have one) Also need to outfit yourself with baitcasters or spinning rigs with all the usual baits,...... then you enter the playing field with an arsenal, not just a buggywhip. Some days a flyrod just aint gonna work no matter what you do. There are fishing maps with GPS coordinants charting the bays,......a GPS is also mandatory to find the charted hotspots and to chart your new hotspot you accidentally found when stopping to open another beer and you see a half acre of tailing reds,......they will be close-by the next day.

Late spring/early summer you might hire a good fishing guide for a few trips, get some friends to share the cost. Take notes, ask plenty of questions,....a good guide is a wealth of info and, just like any fisherman, likes to share his wisdom with others.

This forum is a great place to get fishing info and make friends.

I hope you didn't freeze your ass off icefishing.

Good luck
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Old 12-30-2003, 11:51 AM
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Where in the world is Porter, Texas?

A 7wt. is OK, I personally use a 6,...awesome.
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Old 12-30-2003, 05:49 PM
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One more P.S.

Boat: A shallow runner with a HUGE tunnel, plenty of horsepower(not for top-end speed but for getting out of the hole). Custom 4 blade prop, jackplate.

I have a 14.5' scooter I am happy with. Another good choice is a 16' Shallowsport. Beware of boats that boast a tunnel...........most of the "tunnels" on these boats are worthless, the problem being the tunnel is not large enough to supply the custom prop with the large volume of water it needs to catapult you up to plane in the boats' length. A tunnel should be a large "culvert" extending half way to the bow. Think about it, how does a boat get up to plane?...........the prop has to pull water from under the boat to be able to push water thru itself to provide the propulsion, and trying to get up to plane in a foot of water is impossible without the tunnel. An inadequate tunnel inhibits the mandatory flow of water from under the boat! Very simple.

Kinda like placing a box fan flat against the wall.......it can't PUSH much air because it can't DRAW much air!!
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:17 PM
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Fishing in Galveston can be tricky. During the summer time when a water clears up and the tide is running the fishing from the beach or the jetties can be great. I have caught a bunch of specks, spanish and ladyfish from the galveston jetty. When the water is dirty I head to Xmas bay. The water always stays clear and I have seen a few tailing reds there. I had a strong strike on a dupre spoon last June when I went but I did not hook up. There are a few places to night fish under the boat lights around Moody gardens and Tiki island. It is not much of a challenge but it is alot of fun. you can email me at jwwittich@yahoo.com if you have any other questions.
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:10 AM
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Hey Bear, On your way down to the Island, pull off at Fishing Tackle Unlimited (Cut Rate) on the Gulf Fwy. and talk to Capt. Chris Phillips. He's a great source of info about that area. You might also check about making one of his schools. Ray Crawford's book on Wading and Kayaking the Galveston Bay Complex is something you might want to invest in.
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Old 05-05-2004, 02:41 PM
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Galveston Bay Complex

I am by no means an expert on salt water fishing having just taken it up with a fervor. I also fish with a flyrod and have been doing so since about 1975 but Freshwater almost exclusively my whole life. the closest I came to sea run anytyhing was steelhead and salmon in lake Michigan. That was great stuff btw.

Houston Complex....some ideas. If you want to see some patterns I have tied for the area, you can reach me at daipdq@juno.com.

To catch fish, take a shrimp immitation and fish off the pier at Galveston at night The large pier south of 61st st. You will catch fish. Use a Squid immitation and try that(But you will need to use spinning tackle. Live bait
use strips of squid cut lengthwise, baited on the hook and retrieve jerkbait style.

The water is warming and clearing. You should begin to catch sea trout in the surf as well as reds and other specie. Problem is beach side, there is no real structure to fish except for oyster bars(there is one next to the Galveston pier by the way, fish that say 20 or 30 yards back toward the seawall from the "T". move up and down according to the tied).

I fished the Jetty on the Bolivar side Sunday. Long day standing and only caught croaker.

The bay itself. There are many waters that hold redfish and trout. East bay
north of San Luis Pass is where you fished. There is confederate reef there a reel tangle of coral. If the reds are on it, you will catch fish. Two weeks ago I cast to Spec's off the small Island to the south on the east side at Confederate reef. I spooked them but they are showing up. There is a current flow between that little island and the salt grass...fish that cut, drifting a Shrimp pattern. try sliders or Clausers deep. If you see the mullett, toss one...it should have a blue gray back and tied on a #1 or #1/0 hook right now but will get bigger soon. (check the bait shop: The croakers are getting into the 3-5 inch category and the Piggy's are small, with a purplish
gray back. I have tied them...they are in a average 3 inch long category).

You don't have to fish with bait to talk to bait shop and see what bait the boats are bringing in. Tie your flies accordingly.

Christmas Bay: Harder to fish due to the mud up close on the east side. You can definitely wade fish it though and cast to tailing redfish.

San Luis Pass: This is a very productive cut between the gulf and the bay.
I have successfully caught fish west of the bridge on the north side back into a hard right turn. There is a small island there with extreme shallows. You can usually wade across that cut...walk 100 yards up stream and cross over...
but as you go fish the north side into that small cut...there is a sand bar that runs quite a ways out. after crossing, you can walk for nearly half a mile til you get to the first deep channel. Fish for trout as the water drops quickly
from waste depth to deep water. You will find it easy as the water temp will drop quickly and be at least a 5 degree change.

Back north on the Bolivar bay side, just north of the ferry dock is a small community. If you drive in there and find a small curved bay you will be looking at the ferry to the south in front of you. Fish that who shallow bay.

North of there you can find at least two places to wade a bit and then on up to Anhuac... Get a map and start keeping track. Fish the strong incoming and outgoing tides. Christmas Bay is good for this. Back at san luis pass, use heavy weighted flies to get deep on the south side of San Luis Pass. You can catch trout there at night near the campground, wade out as deep as you can and find a light and cast to it.

bottom line: The fish are there...they move and migrate and theproblem for wade fisherman is to find where they are and fish that. A boat is really necessary for the Bay complex for this reason. A kayak is a good choice if motorized is out of range. A combo of all 3 methods is perfect with a boat large enough to fish out to some of the rigs in the gulf and able to handle skinny water... and move from locale to locale. I am told but have not fished Chocolate Bay. North side is muddy with entrance to lakes. Fish the lakes for flounder, Reds grubbing crabs etc on the north side. The south side is deeper, clearer and that is where you will catch trout. From San Luis Pass across to where Chocolate bay is located is a good 5 miles. A boat is necessary.

I too have struggled with fly rod. Last Sunday with all the wind, as I noted, we gave up on San Luis, Christmas Bay and Confederate Reef and went across to the Bolivar Jetty. Nothing at all. small croaker, etc. Fished with lures, weights, fly, bait. BUT: one young man caught a hug red in the 30-40 inch category while I was there. Go figure. No one caught fish, but this one guy. If they did, I didn't see them walking in and out with them. Just the one large Drum.

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Old 05-05-2004, 03:56 PM
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dai

That was the most detailed response I could imagine. Thank you for all the information. I will probably read it three more times before I e-mail you for patterns and such. I've been down with an injury as of late, but look forward to getting out soon.

Cheers,

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