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GuideLines - The Reel-Time way to have your fishing questions answered by the experts.  As you can see from past issues, FishWire correspondents and GuideLines editors Bob and Sandy Rodgers will pick questions from Reel-Time readers and post the answers every two weeks.  Answers will be gathered from full-time guides, whose livelihood depends on email.gif (2984 bytes)their expertise.  While not intended to solve the riddle of what specific fishing spots to try on a future outing, you will gain the benefit of years of knowledge from professionals in the saltwater fly fishing field.  This can help you overcome obstacles encountered on such subjects as Boats and how to rig them, Tackle, Flies, or Terminal gear.  So come on, send us your questions.


November 5th, 1999

In this edition of GuideLines, we:

  1. try to identify a strange fish,
  2. discuss learning to bonefish,
  3. help a Brazilian fly fisher with bluefish, and
  4. help a bonefisherman heading to Nassau, the Bahamas
  5. post two follow-ups, one on trolling motors, and
  6. another on Fiji fly fishing.

Question: STRANGE FISH
"I caught something this weekend while fishing off Dead Neck in Osterville, right at the mouth of the Seapuit River. It was about 12 inches and perhaps 2 pounds, shaped like a bluefish, with similar fin configuration, but without the teeth. The coloring was very light, tan to white, with a dark vertical band through each eye. The scales were very small, and thus the skin very smooth. This looked like something I would find on a tropical reef. This was not a bluefish, bonito, false albacore, or striped bass. Any idea what it might have been?"
Robert P.

Answer: 
We sent this inquiry to Beth Hanratty at the American Littoral Society (als@netlabs.net) and the good folks there came through again. "Dery and Pam, our fish experts, knew the answer. They think it is a Greater Amberjack. According to Peterson's Guide they are mostly brownish (darker above, whiter below). Dark olive brown stripe extends from snout through eye. Size is up to 5 feet and 176 pounds(!) Their range is from Massachusetts to Brazil, but Pam says it is very unusual to find one in the northern part of that range."


Question: LEARNING TO BONEFISH
"I am new to bonefishing and would like to book a trip that concentrated on teaching me the sport rather than catching a lot of fish. Then, I would like to book a trip to catch a bunch. Does this sound like the best way to go? What would you suggest?" John F.

Answer:  Capt. Bob Rodgers replied: "Hi John, Your idea of booking a trip in order to concentrate on learning the sport of bonefishing is a good one. It does not, however, necessarily preclude the fact that you may catch a couple of fish on your first trip. Casting skills are of the utmost importance when fishing the flats. I don't recommend that anyone attempt to learn how to bonefish before they are able to cast 40 to 60 feet quickly and accurately. Bonefish have a quirky habit of appearing in whichever area is the hardest to see them or cast to them, or both. Quite often a quick back cast presentation will be the only possible way you can get the fly to the fish before it spooks. Accurate presentations of back casts do not come naturally, they take practice. Good bonefishermen can make great presentations from any angle."

"I firmly believe that the Florida Keys are the ideal location for learning to bonefish. This is not because of the numbers of fish or how easy they are to catch, it is because the majority of the guides in the Florida Keys are able to convey the nuances of the sport better than guides in foreign locations, to whom English may be a second language. The Keys are not an angler's best choice if numbers of fish are important. The Keys have a well-deserved reputation for having BIG, SMART bonefish. Big bonefish in the Keys start at 10 pounds. You may not even SEE a bonefish that large in other locations. The trade-off is in numbers. In spots I've fished in Mexico, Central America and the Bahamas, a good day might consist of 15 to 20 fish or more, average size around 2 to 3 pounds. A good angler fishing the Keys might only catch 2 or 3 fish on a good day, but the average size might well be over 7 pounds. I always tell my new clients if they can LEARN to catch bonefish in the Keys, bonefish anywhere else in the world will be easy. I hope this information assists you in making your decision about a location for your first bonefishing trip."


Question: BRAZILIAN BLUES
"Hi, I'm a Brazilian beginner flyfisherman. I'm trying to get the same fish I'd catch with baitcast (tackle) on a flyrod. I did it with snook, groupers, jacks, trevallys, etc., but it's too difficult with the bluefish. I've tried a lot of streamers (Lefty's Deceivers, Clouser minnows, Abel anchovies, Greg's, etc.), poppers and others in 1/0 and 2/0, on an 8-weight and 10-weight rod. Sometimes my friends with baitcast (tackle) play some in front of mine, but I [guess I] never fish on a very good blue-day. Have you some suggestions for me to improve my chances?" Flavio B.

Answer:  Capt. P. John Hayes, Jr. (john.hayesjr@gte.net), of On Call Charters out of Green Harbor, Massachusetts, sent this reply: "Flavio, For starters, make sure you are fishing when the blues are very hungry (blitzing). My favorite time is May on the south Cape (Cod). Just after migration these guys will take almost anything, especially on the incoming tide and just before sunset. Make sure you have the right line, too. I fish intermediate lines in the surf but 350-450 fast sink Teeny lines from the boat. I really don't think the fly matters as much as the action. You have got to keep it in motion. If you still get shut out, try trolling along with some big Rapalas or Hoochies. This has worked for us. Good Luck."


Question: BONEFISHING IN THE BAHAMAS
"I am traveling to Nassau, Bahamas in early November on a business trip. Can you recommend a guide that could get me into fish halfway close to where I will be? Also, is there a better time of year than others to fish for them? Thanks in advance for your help." Mike S.

Answer: Capt Philip Pinder (bornfree@grouper.batelnet.bs) of Born Free Fishing Charters in Nassau, Bahamas, said: "Hello, I'm responding to the question about bonefish from Mike S. There is no bonefishing right here around Nassau, but one of the most famous places in the world for bonefishing is Andros Island, about 35 miles (15-minute flight) from Nassau. You can make arrangements for a morning flight to Andros, do a bonefishing charter for the day and return to Nassau that night. Reports say that November is an excellent time for bonefishing Andros. Give us a call or send an e-mail and we will help you make arrangements for the day. If you can't make the flight to Andros, fishing around Nassau is also rather awesome this time of year. The wahoo are running now along with dolphin, tuna, and kingfish. Born Free Charters has three boats for charter; check us out at www.born-free.com."


Follow-Up: TROLLING MOTOR FOR MAKO
Capt. Bob LeMay (LeMayMiami@aol.com), who guides out of Miami, offered this opinion: "I read the question from the guide up north about a trolling motor for his 19' Mako. Everything Jim Dalrymple said made good sense, but there is a new product out on the market that he may not be aware of since it was developed up in the Stuart (Florida) area. Up there guides working the St. Lucie inlet face swift water that is too deep to pole and too much for one motor. I won't go into how many different rigs were tried that didn't work - just the one that does, and might be just the answer for a big boat rigged to fly fish. Have your guy contact Capt Rich DeVito at Southern Angler in Stuart (561) 223-1300. He's the one who developed and is marketing the system. I don't know what the brand name is, but here is the setup. They have devised a way of mounting two motors on a hinged extension bracket that connects to the rear edges of trim tabs (one motor on each tab). When not in use the extra surface with trolling motor raises up out of the water. It is very powerful, silent, and completely maneuverable from a single hand control. I believe the setup was first shown two years ago at the Shallow Water Expo at Ft. Pierce (Florida) and has had heavy use by guides in the St. Lucie area since then. The only drawback that I know of is the cost -- it's not cheap! Hope this helps, it's perfect for areas where pushpoles can't be effective and you don't want a motor up front where it tangles fly lines."


Follow-Up: FLY FISHING FIJI -- Here's the original question...
We received this information from Bruce Roberts (flyshop@robertsflyshop.com), at Roberts Fly Shop & Fishing Co. in Cochrane, Alberta, Canada: "I can help with some information on Fiji. I have done lots of flats fishing in the Yasawa group on the western edge of the Fijian Islands. The most fish you can expect to catch is black fin and blue fin trevally. Lots of big barracuda and gar. In the mangroves you can get small jacks and tons of baby tarpon. The bigger tarpon are on the flats in small groups, but few and very skitterish. Giant trevally, queenfish, and Spanish mackerel can be caught in deeper water and channels running through the coral and sand flats. Use all the same flies and techniques for these saltwater fish as you would on the flats of the Caribbean. A very useful fly is a Half & Half Deceiver and a tan to very light crab pattern. A Snapping Shrimp is a great fly in the mangroves. I have used a 5-weight for in the mangroves, and a 9- to 12-weight for the flats and deeper water. Sink tip 300 grain and full sink intermediate lines are best. Use big hooks for the flats, 3/0 to 5/0. There are some bonefish here but not many. I believe they are the larger Indo-Pacific variety, sometimes called Sun fish? Not sure, though. Henry Murray (a guide in Fiji; trips can be booked through this shop) is certain, but I remain skeptical. He should know, he grew up in the Yasawas and is an excellent guide. Hope this helps out some."


In upcoming GuideLines we'll talk about:

  1. sharks,
  2. the Galapagos,
  3. Louisiana,
  4. the perfect day for stripers,
  5. Florida's Panhandle, and many more widely diverse topics.

As always, thanks to the guides for their helpful replies, and to all you readers for your first-rate questions. - Keep'em coming!

Bob and Sandy Rodgers


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