mark, thanks for the quick reply. I assume there are decent areas both on the ocean side as well as the inside. right?. I have a 4x4 cherokee but no deluxbury sticker as am resident of plymouth. have in recent years stayed away from launching at the plymouth landing due to all the traffic and idiots. we tend to fish the Cape or Maine almost exclusively, but I know in doing so we're passing up a great deal. I have close friends in duxbury who have 4x4 vehicle probably with beach sticker, but one thought would be to launch at the duxbury town landing next to the yacht club and fish the outer harbor on the right tide. haven't ventured outside the point very far in my 16 ft skiff except tio duck hunt in the fall, but assumning wind and sea state is suitable there's no reason we couldn't fish outside as well on a good day. e-mail me if you want to get together sometime. i know there are big fish cruising plymouth/duxbury waters. allen