The Orvis catalog had a clearance sale. One of the features was Orvis PM-10 Silver Label 9 weight rods for $125.00(originally $260.00). Match that with an Orvis Battenkill Disc Reel size 8/9(about $125.00) and you have a first rate outfit for $250.00 with a 25 year unconditional guarantee. I do not know if they have any left but the phone number is 1-800-548-9548. If you go this route I would suggest getting and extra spool($50.00) and putting a shooting head system on it for line. In general shooting heads are easier to learn how to cast but the running line does tangle more then a regular weight forward line. Some people like them some people do not. If you are just starting out and can afford both get both and find what you like best. Everyone will tell you something different however most would agree this rod and reel at this price is a good deal.